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lenrek · 12-23-2004, 08:04 PM

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Neorask, please, despite some poking fun at your first two posts, finish all seven. I'm following #1 as Pascal's Wager and #2 is not concluding much other then yes, we are humans capable of contemplative thought. I'm hoping #3 gets better...

Yup... I also hope Neorask can finish all the 7 post that he had planed.

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...I honestly believe the entire book was written by men...

Well... Which book is not written by man?

J-D · 12-23-2004, 10:04 PM

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Children sometimes disobey their parents by lying to them and not recognizing their parent's authority over them. Some children have even gone as far as trying to divorce their parents. However, children don’t exclusively disobey their parents. They also frequently disobey teachers, relatives, coaches, and practically any authoritative figure. Unfortunately, this does not just apply to children. In this age, people of all ages often disregard authority. Adults disobey traffic lights and signs, and some even speak badly of policemen and government officials.

It's even worse than people speaking badly of policemen and government officials! Some people even say bad things about the Governor-General! But it's not just in this age. Back in the 1770s, some people in America were actually defying their own King! And in 1649, some people in England cut their King's head off! And do you realise how many of their Emperors the Romans murdered? I just don't know what to say.

Soul Invictus · 12-23-2004, 10:58 PM

I read the OP. I've reviewed your two days, and I haven't seen much along the lines of proof that the Bible is true. I have a few questions.

1) What Bible do you intend to prove true?
2) What elements of the Bible do you intend to prove true (unless you purport that your Bible of choice is true in its entirety)

Thanks

Magdlyn · 12-24-2004, 05:34 AM

Screamingly off topic:

72 virgins= 72 raisins? I should follow Allah for raisins?

Even if it were 72 virgins, since when are virgins any great shakes as lovers?

And then, they last 72 days. OK, 36 if I am greedy. Then what? Eternity lasts a long time. Do the virgins get reset or what?

Wiploc · 12-24-2004, 06:41 AM

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It's even worse than people speaking badly of policemen and government officials! Some people even say bad things about the Governor-General! But it's not just in this age. Back in the 1770s, some people in America were actually defying their own King! And in 1649, some people in England cut their King's head off! And do you realise how many of their Emperors the Romans murdered? I just don't know what to say.

Don't forget the Jews who disobeyed Hitler, and the reprobate sailors who disobeyed Captain Bligh.

crc

jayG60 · 12-24-2004, 01:51 PM

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Well... Which book is not written by man?

The one written by woman?

PoodleLovinPessimist · 12-24-2004, 02:19 PM

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And then, they last 72 days. OK, 36 if I am greedy. Then what? Eternity lasts a long time. Do the virgins get reset or what?

Supposedly, yes, their virginity is continuously renewed.

Proof of god by adolescent fantasy. Always one of my favorites.

premjan · 12-24-2004, 02:37 PM

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The one written by woman?

I guess even revelation is at best, "spoken" by God.

sourdough · 12-24-2004, 08:12 PM

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and some even speak badly of policemen and government officials.

if someone said you aint considered a citizen/patriot b/c off your lack of belief in some invisible sky man,I think you would have some choice words for them yourself!

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The human race is a stubborn and rebellious race that often will not regard any authority that hinders what their free will, nature, or imagination wants to do.

crap!
law abiding people will always accept a righteous leader,
however when you want someone to blindly accept/follow the rules of your evil,jealous,murder inciting bibleGod,you'll run into some serious oposition.

thats basicaly where you going with all this aint it?
follow/obey my god...
not a chance

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The possibility of the existence of God poses the biggest threat of all....it suggests that there is an afterlife and that the experiences of this afterlife are determined by the actions of the life we currently live.

doesnt suggest anything actualy,it could be Deists god who doesnt interfere with anything.
anyway accepting Jebus and repenting in the end makes even the worst scumbags,thieves, killers and such have an assured place in the cloud paradise,as long as they repent sincerely of course,
so what the heck does belief/fear of God do exactly,for us now,sweet F ALL.

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Justification for personal satisfaction does not mix with authority.

thats nonsense.
ever heard of rights to pursue happines?
oh i forgot youre born sinner,pleasure is wrong and youre :notworthy

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People don't want to be told what to do by another human,

oh I dont mind,as long he/she KNOWS what the f they talking about!

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Some rebellious and stubborn people attempt to go around God’s authority.

god has no authority here,its humans hiding behind the so called "holly book"who like to control/exploit you and yours

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In doing this, they sidestep the idea of God reigning over them by turning to another authority—the authority of deception.

yes the science is the work of the devil aint it?

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It amazes me on how people in the days of Moses who actually witnessed many feats performed by God still rejected His authority.

unless YOU see God do anything,the evidence is just hearsay which is inadmisible in a court of law,

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Have I just put my feet on your rug? Or am I still too "absurd" to offend anyone? I find it funny on how easily I can offend someone by questioning thier beliefs. They say that it is a personal matter. I say they are afraid of the truth.

nope,if anything youre <edited> and being unable to comprehend logical contradictions when it comes to belief in God.

revenant_7 · 12-24-2004, 09:19 PM

My two cents on "god's authority":

When god decides to handle his dirty work personally he'll have my attention. Until then I will take "god's authority" for what it is: man's lust for power and control at the cost of human freedom and dignity.

12-23-2004, 10:58 PM	#43
Soul Invictus Contributor Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Milwaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 15,576	hey neorask... I read the OP. I've reviewed your two days, and I haven't seen much along the lines of proof that the Bible is true. I have a few questions. 1) What Bible do you intend to prove true? 2) What elements of the Bible do you intend to prove true (unless you purport that your Bible of choice is true in its entirety) Thanks

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12-24-2004, 05:34 AM	#44
Magdlyn Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 2,230	Screamingly off topic: 72 virgins= 72 raisins? I should follow Allah for raisins? Even if it were 72 virgins, since when are virgins any great shakes as lovers? And then, they last 72 days. OK, 36 if I am greedy. Then what? Eternity lasts a long time. Do the virgins get reset or what?

12-24-2004, 09:19 PM	#50
revenant_7 New Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MO Posts: 4	My two cents on "god's authority": When god decides to handle his dirty work personally he'll have my attention. Until then I will take "god's authority" for what it is: man's lust for power and control at the cost of human freedom and dignity.

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