Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

You use that phrase repeatedly. If they. worshiped 'Judaisim' the religion itself, (which no doubt some indeed did) they were worshipping a religion and not the Deity of that religion.

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

Perhaps that is why they even 'forgot' what their deity's name was, or even how to pronounce it?

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

...been so busy worshipping 'Judaisim' itself, that they no longer had any idea Whom the Elohim of Judaism was, not even so much as His Name?

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

They just 'forgot' and could no longer 'call upon The Name יהוה

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

Wonder if they're still struggling with 'shibboleth' ?

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

You use that phrase repeatedly. If they. worshiped 'Judaisim' the religion itself, (which no doubt some indeed did) they were worshipping a religion and not the Deity of that religion.

Originally Posted by spin

What a nauseous waste of your readers' time.

Originally Posted by outhouse

How do you know that they were not worshiping yahweh?

Originally Posted by outhouse

That is what attracted God-Fearers and Gate Proselytes to Judaism, the one powerful monotheistic god.

They just didnt care about the winky snipping part of it. But spent generations in synagogues doing exactly what every other jews was doing.

Originally Posted by spin

Sheshbazzar, like all the other denialists, has not adduced a single indicator that these therapeutae were not Jewish.

Originally Posted by aa5874

You could not have shown that Philo claimed the Therapeutae were Jews or of Jewish origin.

We have examined every word and every line in "On the Contemplative Life" and there is no mention whatsoever that the Therapeutae were Jews.

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

And many Gentiles studied those same Holy Scriptures and were also Sabbath keepers. So the fact that these theraputae observed the Scriptural Sabbath is in itself not any valid evidence that they were Jewish.

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

Which was ?

Originally Posted by spin

1. They worshiped the same god as Philo.

Originally Posted by Sheshbazzar

The number of threads I have personally opened in my ten years of participation on this Forum may still be counted on the fingers of one hand.
I therefore think it not unreasonable that I be permitted to open one more, in response to a request I posed and to whose answer I was not permitted to reply.

Philo says not one single word about these 'theraputae' being 'Jewish'.

My congregation also accepts, holds, and teaches all of these things;
The observing the Seventh Day SABBATH rest, the keeping all of the Scripturally commanded Annual Festivals, High SABBATHS, and Fasts of The Torah.
Also diligently teaching the observing of the kosher food laws, as well as the many other injunctions of THE LAW of YHWH,
-yet we are not 'Jewish', nor are we any 'christians'.

Many gentiles who read The Holy Scriptures endeavored to -KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS-, along with the 'Jewish' people, to the extent of their abilities, pleading the mercy of Ha'Shem in whatever matter beyond their control, or knowledge, in which they might fall short of perfection, Not just the Jews.

The Catholic church had a long time problem with these gentile worshipers ('theraputae') that continued to KEEP THE LAWS and to observe THE HOLY SABBATHS and Festivals that were commanded in their Bibles, along with those known as the 'Jews'




__Clear up into the 7th century and beyond. Inforcing their Popery man made Decrees with terror, torture, and murder.

Now certainly the objection will be raised, this is all about 'Christians'.

To this I will point out, just like many of the GENTILES refused and resisted onto death the change in THE Scriptural SABBATH DAY of rest, there were also many SABBATH keeping -GENTILES- who resisted having the invented catholic name of 'Christian' stuffed down their throats, and would chose rather to die being called 'Judaizers' than bending their knees to vile Papal Decrees, threats, and the tortures and murder carried out by the minions of that succession of despotic and murderously evil Roman Pope's.

Just because some GENTILES observe all of the the Scripturally mandated SABBATHS and SCRIPTURALLY ordained Festivals -along with the Jewish people, that does not make them 'Jewish'.

Even in the Law of Moses, the ger toshavim 'stranger of the gate' ('stranger within thy gates') had NO requirement to be circumcised, to be able love the Elohim of Israel, to thank Him for life's blessings, and to look forward to the fulfillment of His Promises, and to keep THE SABBATHS of YHWH - and praise His Holy Name, -along with- his chosen people Israel.

It was a mixed multitude that was 'passed over' and was delivered into The Promised Land. The Jew and the Gentile together, So it was, and so it is that the Scriptures Promise to both Jew and GENTILE alike that call upon His Holy Name.

Thus there is nothing that entails that the 'theraputae' of old Alexandria, -or of any other place- ever had to be exclusively 'Jewish'.

If Philo knew the Law and the Promises, he would have known what a 'stranger within the gates' was, and of The Law's open accommodation of all such persons.

And if he were a learned Jew indeed, in subjection to The Laws of Moses, he would certainly have accepted the presence of any such Gentiles among the 'theraputae' -worshipers.

Why, with all conscious deliberation, Philo never once used the word 'Jew' or 'Jewish' when writing of these theraputae 'worshipers'.