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Old 11-03-2006, 12:06 PM   #1
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Ok, I realize that obesity itself may not be a sin, but it is usually associated with the sin of gluttony (for those who don't know, gluttony is excessive eating and drinking).

If this is the case (correct me if I'm wrong about gluttony being a sin), then why are there not droves of christians demonstrating against fast food giants like McDonald's, Burger King and Wendy's?

Indeed, one could probably find a way to blame places like Wal Mart, A&P, Food Basics and other mega-grocery stores for promoting the sin of gluttony to the western public.

In my neck of the woods (and I assume many parts of the west), one does not have to travel far to see christians eating and drinking excessively!
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Few 'Christians' in North America practice anything like the religion described in the Bible.
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The seven deadly sins (or see the wiki article here) include pride, envy, gluttony, lust, anger, greed, and - my favorite - sloth. They are not Biblical, but are a medieval construction. The New Testament refers to people calling Jesus a glutton because he was not an ascetic like John the Baptist (Matthew 11:19, Luke 7:34).

You probably also see Christians driving large gas guzzling SUV's, displaying their wealth, envying their neighbors. You probably don't see them committing other deadly sins, but you know it happens.
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Ok, I realize that obesity itself may not be a sin, but it is usually associated with the sin of gluttony (for those who don't know, gluttony is excessive eating and drinking).

If this is the case (correct me if I'm wrong about gluttony being a sin), then why are there not droves of christians demonstrating against fast food giants like McDonald's, Burger King and Wendy's?

Indeed, one could probably find a way to blame places like Wal Mart, A&P, Food Basics and other mega-grocery stores for promoting the sin of gluttony to the western public.

In my neck of the woods (and I assume many parts of the west), one does not have to travel far to see christians eating and drinking excessively!
In some cases, obesity seems to be genetic. Some people are just big no matter how much they eat. From experience, I can tell you that obesity does not always happen overnight. It happens one-two-three pounds a year over 30-40 years. The older you get the harder it is to keep it off. When I was young and active in sports, I could eat all the food I wanted and not gain a pound. Today, I smell food and I gain weight.

One other cause is that many Christians entertain people by inviting them to dinner or taking them out to eat. That tends to put on pounds.

Finally, God made food and food tastes good. It's hard to stay away from good food. It takes self-control and some people are more self-controlled than others.

Also, sitting in front of a computer writing comments like this does not burn many calories.
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Few 'Christians' in North America practice anything like the religion described in the Bible.
Many people who describe themselves as "Christians" do not seem to know anything about the religion described in the Bible much less be able to practice that religion. You can't practice that which you do not know.
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.......God made food.......
You mean that God made food for SOME people, meaning people other than the millions of people who he allowed to die slow, painful deaths from starvation. God not only allows some people to starve to death, but he cause some people to starve to death. God causes droughts. He created locusts. He created the bacteria (Bubonic Plague) that killed one fourth of the people in Europe. The Bible says that God is loving, but that is not true. No loving God would refuse to provide people with enough food to eat, especially his most devout and faithful followers. Do you love God? If so, why? In your opinion, what attributes does a loving God have, and what attributes does a loving man have?

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Many people who describe themselves as "Christians" do not seem to know anything about the religion described in the Bible much less be able to practice that religion. You can't practice that which you do not know.
Tell that to God. He doesn't want everyone to know he exists, and what he wants them to do with their lives. He allowed hundreds of millions of people to die without having heard the Gospel message. In the first century, he discriminated against people who did not live within close proximity to the Middle East. He didn't want people who lived in China to hear the Gospel message.

In another thread you said that it is my fault that some people will not hear the Gospel message because I refuse to tell them about it, but you have also said that it is God's choice who he reveals himself to. Now which is it, is it God's choice whether or not to tell John Smith about the Gospel message, or my choice? Decent people are not able to will themselves to accept a God who is willing that some people will perish, some of whom would not perish if he revealed himself to them.

If you have children, if they were drowning, would you try to save some of them, or all of them? I have asked you this question a number of times at this forum, and at the EofG Forum, but you have always refused to answer it. Why is that? Many readers will conclude that you are not nearly as confident of your arguments as you pretend that you are. Why are you afraid of a puny skeptic like me when you have God on your side to help you answer questions? I will repost my question as frequently as necessary in order to show readers how evasive you are.
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