Salam

lol. I'm sure the Quran wasn't "written" by Muhammad.

Salam

Here my friend a verse from the Quran telling us what Jesus said.

[Yusufali 61:6] And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"

However it doesn't say he was send ONLY to the jews. Prophet are sent to a particular people or nations, but that doesn't mean that other people are not welcome to accept the message.

ohmi

Yes indeed, he did say that all will acknowledge him as Lord, thus obey him and Love ... but he also said who would be first, just 144,000 firstfruuit saints taken at his return [Rev 7:3-8] , the FEW who find the narrow way in this life [Matt 7:14] , and that the many come afterward [Rev 7:9-10] ... thus salvation is not all at once as many assume, but is in stages , thus necessitating DIVISION in this world [and yet again at judgment day]:-

Luke 12:51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

Yes , and putting all the examples together excludes ALL creeds, every single denomination and sect, which one could work out even more simply by just noting their division [God is not divided, and undertakes to teach everyone Himself eventually ... but obviously most people died still sinners without receiving all truth of God, so God cannot teach them all things as promised (Joel 2:28 + John 16:13) until after the second resurrection (of the unjust), after the millenium and before judgment... }

I have found that the scripture unravels such apparent contradictions , and one thus discovers the deeper meaning , simply by taking one's misunderstandings to God in meditation with praying and yearning for His truth, so perhaps we might discuss what you have thought contradictory. if you lke ?

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

ohmi

Interestingly , Jesus said nothing about being sent to the Jews, he said that he was not sent but to the HOUSE OF ISRAEL, and none of these was ever a Jew

Jesus made the point that everyone is welcome to the message, but the message is that he will return and first take only the 144,000 saints , the few who find the narrow way of ceasing from sin in this life , that the many cannot be redeemed until later once the perfect priesthood and his kingdom come upon the earth have been established.

Paul was sent to take this message to the gentiles, but as we see today, no creed has taken Jesus' message seriously , no religion embraces the written statemnet that Jesus said that he is only sent to the few for now, the renmnant of the lost paganised [non-Jewish] House of Israel

GenesisNemesis

They don't "ignore" what Jesus said, ohmi, because they're their own religions. Why can't you just accept that?

arnoldo

Perhaps I misunderstood the OP which I took to mean why do all christian religions/sects preach the Gospel outside of Israel? :huh:

*edit* sorry I didn't read your response below

Yes, you make a good point about the lost tribes of Israel however after 70 AD the entire nation of Israel was scattered to all nations by the Romans. If anything your issue is indirect evidence that the gospel(autograph) was written before the diaspora of 70 AD.

ohmi

I do accept it, i have no choice but to accept it.

But I think the rejection of Jesus' words in scripture by the whole of Christianity is particularly worthy of comment , especially as Jesus prophesied it e.g. :-

Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

ohmi

Israel [the modern nation] is still almost exclusively Jewish, whereas the House of Israel, to whom alone Jesus said he is sent , are wholly non-Jewish, never accepted Judaism ever...

Also please read the gospel of grace [Heb 8:8-12] and note that grace is only offered to those whose fathers broke the old covenant .

ohmi

Rejecting grossly divided religion makes obvious sense... but rejecting Love [as that which one respects most , one's 'god' ] is impossible [ultimately at least] ...

arnoldo

So do you have any theories on who/where the lost tribes of Israel/House of Israel are?