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Old 10-31-2005, 06:54 PM   #1
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I disagree. case not dropped. Both the old and new testaments were written for all mankind. after all, the Bible is the best selling book in human history and has been translated into more languages and disseminated to more places than any other book....
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I disagree. case not dropped. Both the old and new testaments were written for all mankind. after all, the Bible is the best selling book in human history and has been translated into more languages and disseminated to more places than any other book....
mata leao, the argument from "millions of hamburgers sold worldwide" does not prove Ronald McDonald is god, or even that hamburgers are good for you.

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I disagree. case not dropped. Both the old and new testaments were written for all mankind. after all, the Bible is the best selling book in human history and has been translated into more languages and disseminated to more places than any other book....
Ah! A new test of truth.

If enough people believe, that makes the belief true.

Ever hear about how there was a time when everyone believed the world was flat? That the sun revolved around the earth? That a Garden of Eden actually existed? That... you get the idea.

Please explain why a best seller is automatically sacred, divine or whatever.

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I think you're all missing Mata Leao's point: The Bible was supposedly written for the whole world, so we don't have to refer to the Greek. At least that's what I think was intended, not that its popularity proved anything about the validity of the text.
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Why then did a just and loving God not give us Babelfish? Why was the New Testament written in Koine Greek, a dialect that was not fully understood until the last century?
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Both the old and new testaments were written for all mankind. after all, the Bible is the best selling book in human history and has been translated into more languages and disseminated to more places than any other book....
(My post in response didn't make it from the thread split where mata leao was going on about the Dead Sea scrolls somehow proving the infallibility of his own "holy" book, so I'm just dropping it back in) :wave:

Ya, I don't see ANY Christians reading the Torah (this would be the Dead Sea Scrolls). What's up with that? :huh: Funny how Christians never mentioned that the Torah was the real "holy" book that they should be studying and observing.
I have seen them in person in Israel and don't remember seeing the Christian bible, which contains only a tiny bit of the Torah, displayed or even mentioned there at the museum.
I think (and history shows) that "someone" has been changing things to suit their own wants and needs. Hmmmm, if I were "god" then I just might be pissed off enough to do some smiting.
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I disagree. case not dropped. Both the old and new testaments were written for all mankind. after all, the Bible is the best selling book in human history and has been translated into more languages and disseminated to more places than any other book....
but still, the laws today that are similar to the ten comms laws are not there because of the ten comms. The point was that the laws, in one form or another, existed in many ancient cultures who had no knowledge of god or the bible e.g. aboriginie, maori, the incas so on and so on. they all had these laws thousands of miles away and hundreds and sometimes thousands of years before any sort of vague christianity was even dreamt up.
hence the reason for these laws existing is not because of the ten comms but because they just make good sense in any society that wants to rely on a division of labour.
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