Onias

Semiopen wrote:

Actually the correct translation is not to abhor an Aramite.

semiopen

I think translators generally want to express things correctly in the language they are translating into.

However, here you probably have made the mistake.

Deuteronomy 23:7

Deuteronomy 23:7 Hebrew


לֹֽא־תְתַעֵ֣ב אֲדֹמִ֔י כִּ֥י אָחִ֖יךָ ה֑וּא ס לֹא־תְתַעֵ֣ב מִצְרִ֔י כִּי־גֵ֖ר הָיִ֥יתָ בְאַרְצֽוֹ׃
(Deu 23:8 WTT)

Your problem is that you have taken the Strong's definition of the verb - to abhor and failed to modify it based on the first tav (letter).

תְתַעֵ֣ב verb piel imperfect 2nd person masculine singular.

This changes the meaning of תָּעַב.

I always put in a disclaimer that I know even less about Hebrew grammar than I do about Hebrew, so I won't be too devastated if someone corrects my explanation.

On a more practical level however, would a guy put a mistranslation into the title of his doctoral disertation? Would all the translation in biblos be technically wrong as well as JPS?

Onias

The verb is not the issue here. The issue is the Hebrew word that is rendered as either Edomite or Aramite. Note how similar these Hebrew words appear and how they easily can be mistaken for the other.

Btw, there is a verse in the LXX that substitutes 'Syrian' for 'Edomite' that I noted many years ago. I shall try to find it again.

Onias

Please note how Edom and Aram are confused in the various translations of 2 Kings 16:6.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible...1&t=KJV#vrsn/6



KJV - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drave the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there unto this day.
© Info: - King James Version 1769 Info





NKJV - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time Rezin king of Syria captured Elath for Syria, and drove the men of Judah from Elath. Then the Edomites* went to Elath, and dwell there to this day.
Footnote:
* Some ancient authorities read Syrians.

© Info: - New King James Version © 1982 Thomas Nelson





NLT - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time the king of Edom* recovered the town of Elath for Edom.* He drove out the people of Judah and sent Edomites* to live there, as they do to this day.
Footnotes:
* As in Latin Vulgate; Hebrew reads Rezin king of Aram.
* As in Latin Vulgate; Hebrew reads Aram.
* As in Greek version, Latin Vulgate, and an alternate reading of the Masoretic Text; the other alternate reads Arameans.© Info: - New Living Translation © 2007 Tyndale House Foundation





NIV - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time, Rezin king of Aram recovered Elath for Aram by driving out the men of Judah. Edomites then moved into Elath and have lived there to this day.
© Info: - The Holy Bible, New International Version© 1973, 1978, 1984 International Bible Society





ESV - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time Rezin the king of Syria recovered Elath for Syria and drove the men of Judah from Elath, and the Edomites came to Elath, where they dwell to this day.
© Info: - English Standard Version © 2001, 2007 Crossway Bibles





RVR - 2Ki 16:6 - En aquel tiempo el rey de Edom recobró Elat para Edom, y echó de Elat a los hombres de Judá; y los de Edom vinieron a Elat y habitaron allí hasta hoy.
© Info: - Reina-Valera © 1960 Sociedades Bíblicas en América Latina





NASB - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time Rezin king of Aram recovered Elath for Aram, and cleared the Judeans out of *Elath entirely; and the *Arameans came to Elath and have lived there to this day.
© Info: - New American Standard Bible © 1995 Lockman Foundation





RSV - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time the king of Edom recovered Elath for Edom, and drove the men of Judah from Elath; and the E'domites came to Elath, where they dwell to this day.
© Info: - Revised Standard Version © 1947, 1952.





ASV - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drove the Jews from Elath; and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there, unto this day.
© Info: - American Standard Version 1901 Info





YLT - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time hath Rezin king of Aram brought back Elath to Aram, and casteth out the Jews from Elath, and the Aramaeans have come in to Elath, and dwell there unto this day.
© Info: - Robert Young Literal Translation 1862, 1887, 1898 Info





DBY - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drove the Jews from Elath; and the Syrians came to Elath, and dwelt there to this day.
© Info: - J.N.Darby Translation 1890 Info





WEB - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time Rezin king of Syria recovered Elath to Syria, and drove the Jews from Elath: and the Syrians came to Elath, and have dwelt there to this day.
© Info: - Noah Webster Version 1833 Info





HNV - 2Ki 16:6 - At that time Retzin king of Aram recovered Elat to Aram, and drove the Yehudim from Elat; and the Aram came to Elat, and lived there, to this day.
© Info: - Hebrew Names Version 2000 Info





VUL - 2Ki 16:6 - in tempore illo restituit Rasin rex Syriae Ahilam Syriae et eiecit Iudaeos de Ahilam et Idumei venerunt in Ahilam et habitaverunt ibi usque in diem hanc
© Info: - Jerome's Latin Vulgate 405 A.D. Info





WLC - 2Ki 16:6 - בָּעֵת הַהִיא הֵשִׁיב רְצִין מֶֽלֶךְ־אֲרָם אֶת־אֵילַת לַֽאֲרָם וַיְנַשֵּׁל אֶת־הַיְהוּדִים מֵֽאֵילֹות וארמים בָּאוּ אֵילַת וַיֵּשְׁבוּ שָׁם עַד הַיֹּום הַזֶּֽה׃ פ
© Info: - Jerome's Latin Vulgate 405 A.D. Info





LXX - 2Ki 16:6 - ἐν τῷ καιρῷ ἐκείνῳ ἐπέστρεψεν Ραασσων βασιλεὺς Συρίας τὴν Αιλαθ τῇ Συρίᾳ καὶ ἐξέβαλεν τοὺς Ιουδαίους ἐξ Αιλαθ καὶ Ιδουμαῖοι ἦλθον εἰς Αιλαθ καὶ κατῴκησαν ἐκεῖ ἕως τῆς ἡμέρας ταύτης

semiopen

When I'm at work I use this link for the JPS (1917) text


The problem is a scribal error. The guy mistook the dalet in vadmim for a resh and came up with varmim. The JPS Hebrew notes this in parentheses. This is an easy mistake to make, note how similar the two letters look. Keep in mind that the vowels (the little things on the bottom plus any dots in or above the letters) are added in as reading aids for people who aren't familiar with Hebrew and weren't in the original text.

The Jewish concept of these errors is that they are meaningful. It appears that the Christian concept is similar.

This particular example is clearly an error and the JPS corrects this in the English.