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Ben C Smith · 01-06-2009, 11:45 AM

I guess my question about what Iesus means in Latin is going unanswered.

Ben.

spamandham · 01-06-2009, 12:56 PM

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I guess my question about what Iesus means in Latin is going unanswered.

Ben.

Don't get greedy Ben. Hasn't all this been treat enough?

Ben C Smith · 01-06-2009, 01:07 PM

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I guess my question about what Iesus means in Latin is going unanswered.

Ben.

Don't get greedy Ben. Hasn't all this been treat enough?

Like a vomit-flavored Jelly Belly.

(Scroll down to the sound advice at the very end of the page.)

Ben.

Didymus · 01-06-2009, 01:39 PM

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So ... what you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Whatever it might have been, those quoted passages confirm, that, had I taken up the study of linguistics, my career in that field would have been brutish and short.

Yeesh! - which ejaculation oftentimes vniustly vsurpeth the sound and place of I-EEzus!

Ddms

Doug Shaver · 01-08-2009, 12:40 AM

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The name of Jesus takes a rather understandable trajectory from the original Hebrew into Aramaic and Greek and Latin and the Romance languages and English; there is nothing overly unusual about it; the eventual split between Joshua and Jesus is understandable on its own historical terms, based on the Hebrew and the Greek, without having to call in the soothsayers.

Hear, hear!

dog-on · 01-08-2009, 12:44 AM

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The name of Jesus takes a rather understandable trajectory from the original Hebrew into Aramaic and Greek and Latin and the Romance languages and English; there is nothing overly unusual about it; the eventual split between Joshua and Jesus is understandable on its own historical terms, based on the Hebrew and the Greek, without having to call in the soothsayers.

Hear, hear!

Yea, not much of a leap from Isu Chrestus to Jesus Christ.

Isu to Joshua, meh...

Jeffrey Gibson · 01-08-2009, 07:02 AM

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Hear, hear!

Yea, not much of a leap from Isu Chrestus to Jesus Christ.

On the contrary, its an astounding leap. Where do we find either in any MS witness to the text of the NT or in any translation of that text, the use of the name Isu, let alone Isu Chrestus?

Jeffrey

dog-on · 01-08-2009, 07:30 AM

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Yea, not much of a leap from Isu Chrestus to Jesus Christ.

On the contrary, its an astounding leap. Where do we find either in any MS witness to the text of the NT or in any translation of that text, the use of the name Isu, let alone Isu Chrestus?

Jeffrey

How about Isu Chrestos?

aa5874 · 01-08-2009, 07:54 AM

What is very interesting is that the "history" of the letter "j" has been expounded but I am yet to know the real name of the supposed man called Jesus.

And, I have noticed in the writings of Josephus, that in most cases, that the writer, when introducing a character that he is wrote about in some detail, he usually, introduce the character as the son of some person, like Jesus the son of Ananus, Jesus the Son of Saphat, Jesus the son of Sapphias, Jesus the son of Gamala, Jesus the son of Damneus, and Jesus the son of Gamaliel.

But, in Antiquities of the Jews 18.3.3, there is no mention of Jesus as being the son of anyone. The author of the TF was not even sure that Jesus could be called a man. If we could find out who his father was, maybe we would know what he was called.

Jeffrey Gibson · 01-08-2009, 08:05 AM

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On the contrary, its an astounding leap. Where do we find either in any MS witness to the text of the NT or in any translation of that text, the use of the name Isu, let alone Isu Chrestus?

Jeffrey

How about Isu Chrestos?

You tell me. Where is this expression found?

Jeffrey

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Ben C Smith Veteran Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Midwest Posts: 4,787	I guess my question about what Iesus means in Latin is going unanswered. Ben.

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aa5874 Contributor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: the fringe of the caribbean Posts: 18,988	What is very interesting is that the "history" of the letter "j" has been expounded but I am yet to know the real name of the supposed man called Jesus. And, I have noticed in the writings of Josephus, that in most cases, that the writer, when introducing a character that he is wrote about in some detail, he usually, introduce the character as the son of some person, like Jesus the son of Ananus, Jesus the Son of Saphat, Jesus the son of Sapphias, Jesus the son of Gamala, Jesus the son of Damneus, and Jesus the son of Gamaliel. But, in Antiquities of the Jews 18.3.3, there is no mention of Jesus as being the son of anyone. The author of the TF was not even sure that Jesus could be called a man. If we could find out who his father was, maybe we would know what he was called.

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