GodLessWarrior

I was having disucussion with a friend the other day about the existance of Jesus. I stated that there were no known contemporary writings about jesus. That the writings did not appear until 50 yearsafter he died. He immediatly said that I was wrong, that Mary Magdalene wrote about him. He also stated that jesus was the smartest personj to ever walk the earth. Anyway. I have never heard of her before and just wanted to know where he is comming from with the assertion. Thanks.

Mullibok

There's a Gospel according to Mary Magdalene that Gnostics seem to be fond of. I'm not sure when it's been dated to but maybe it says on this site somewhere that I haven't found:

http://www.gnosis.org/library/marygosp.htm

This is Mary in the Bible:

http://www.magdalene.org/biblical.htm

Tristan Scott

Actually Mary Magdeline was Married to Jesus, but they were actually reincaranates that have been born and reborn throughouit eternity to show us the Way...the true path...the Callers of the Call...etc, etc

http://essenes.crosswinds.net/subindexgospel.htm

Amos

Interesting.

I don't think it was a marriage as we know it but it certainly was an intense relationship of two identites.

In "Coriolanus" these are Valeria and Aufidius who therefore said: "Know thou first, I loved the maid I married" (IV.v. 14-15).

Here Magdalene is Valeria (valor) and Aufidius is the ego of Marcius who's vitality depended on the presense of Valeria in the mind of Aufidius.

Coriolanus is the reborn son of virgin Virgilia and Valeria's return to Rome indicates that the serpent was now raised into the mind of Coriolanus. In Rome Valeria joined forces with Volumnia (who's name echo's the volume of inifinity) and with Virgilia to once again become the life of Rome. It indicates that reason prevailed in the mind of Coriolanus after Valeria (the serpent) was raised into the mind of Caius Marcius now called Coriolanus.

-DM-

"'But what did Mary Magdalene ever write herself?'" I asked Geisler. "What did Salome ever write?" "Who was she anyway?" "What did Joanna write?" "And who was she?" These were questions that Geisler ignored...." (The Geisler-Till Debate.)


"The terminus ad quem is set by the third century manuscripts that attest to the Gospel of Mary. The use of the term Savior for Jesus and the Gnostic theology in the Gospel of Mary suggest a dating in the second century." (For more, see: Early Christian Writings: The Gospel of Mary [Magdalene].)

"There exists, too, a fragmentary, badly damaged text called the Gospel of Mary, dating from sometime in the second century. In it the disciples grieve over the death of Yeshu and out of fear for themselves. But Magdalene tries to encourage them, and this discussion turns into an argument between Peter and the other disciples about Marys credibility. Here, too, the book points to a tradition that sees Magdalene as an important disciples in her own right, one who was often at odds with Peter." (LA Weekly: Mary Magdalene.)

"As to the dating of the original text upon which the copy was based, it is interesting to note that there exists a Greek fragment—the Rylands papyrus 463—whose identity as the precursor of the Coptic text has been confirmed by Professor Carl Schmidt. This fragment comes from Oxyrhynchus and dates from the beginning of the third century. The first edition of the Gospel of Mary, however, would likely be older than this, that is, from sometime during the second century. W. C. Till places it around the year 150. Therefore it would seem, like the canonical gospels, to be one of the founding or primitive texts of Christianity." (The Gospel of Mary Magdalene.)

"Tuckett has also argued that the Gospel of Mary and the Book of Thomas the Contender are dependent on synoptic materials, and that 'there is virtually no evidence for the use of pre-synoptic sources by these writers. These texts are all 'post-synoptic,' not only with regard to their dates, but also with regard to the form of the synoptic tradition they presuppose.' In other words, these writings are simply drawing on preexistent Gospel material and rearranging it to conform to their Gnostic world view. They do not contribute historically authentic, new material." (THE GNOSTIC GOSPELS: Are They Authentic?.)

. . . in other words, the so-called Gospel of Mary [Magdalene] is almost certainly a relatively late document, certainly NOT written by a contemporary of Jesus, and other than that, there is nothing known, so far as I know, which has been attributed to Mary Magdalene even if pseudonymously. Ask your Christian friend to produce the evidence.

-Don-

GodLessWarrior

Wow, thanks for all of the great info!!!
This material will definetly come in handy!!

Doctor X

. . . as indicated by others, no.

. . . which explains his inability to understand fig trees. . . .

--J.D.

offa

The Fig Tree was Herod Antipas and Jesus refused to support him. It was about money.

Calzaer

I thought Herod Antipasta was a person, not a tree...

Tellurian

I read that Mary Magdelene was supposed to be a reference to Mary the mother of Jesus. In some Talmudic writings and writings by the Roman historian Celsus and the Christian theologin Origen it is mentioned that Mary was thrown out of the house of the carpenter because of her adultery with the Roman soldier Pantera. According to these accounts she gave birth to the illegitamate child Jesus and became known as a harlot, which is the reputation that Mary Magdelene had.

Of course, there are so many conflicting stories that it becomes difficult to know which, if any, are true.