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Old 12-30-2012, 01:03 PM   #1
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Actaully that is all in line with what is known.

The Roman/Gentiles all viewed Galileans as trouble making tax rebels, and that is why the Joshua figure was crucified.

And Paul, he definatly deified the figure with his own teachings.
Those are the charismatics as we know them today. But the tax issue here was religion itself that needed to deliver, and out of this confrontation the Lamb of God was nourished as Son of God to become fully God when they crucified him.

So you must see this as wolves nursing the lamb since purgation is required inside the fire of Galilee, but is to last only 42 months and then those same wolves in their own height of oblivion will be eager to crucify Him.
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Old 12-30-2012, 02:21 PM   #2
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And while I am at it, the careless use of the word 'exist' drives me to distraction. I hear people speak of 'Jesus not existing.' How is this ever proved by denying his humanity?
While I am not part of the argument, I want to point out that:

Humanity pertains to the human condition that is not part of the being called man. It is werein we can have red hair, blond hair or no hair at all, or be male or female with a gender identity to agree with our sex . . . or not, shall we say, which in turn does not make males anymore man than females as our sex is the illusion that we both serve, or do not.

Jesus had none of these qualities or he'd be a sinner like us now as man with a human condition attached, wherein his cross actually was the humanity of Joseph that he died on.

Do you see the contradiction in this?

In other words, if our humanity is the cross that we carry, it cannot be us to take this to Calvary or it would not be our cross to die on.

This is totally absurd and is why that blanket statement can be made that Christians are trying to lift the very stone that they are standing on, and the harder they try the heavier it gets.

And so the first step to make is to walk away from religion, or tax it to make it deliver, and for this the pathway to heaven must be carved in your mind already and follow it on your own.
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Indeed most of your 'combat' seems to be directed against an American Protestant notion of a 'real Jesus' who was born to ordinary parents and thus was 'a fully real person.' This would not have been an issue in antiquity. Instead there were those who believed that Jesus was a God born from a Virgin (the Catholics) and those who thought he was a God descended directly from heaven. What do any of these arguments you are making have any relevance to any of these ancient controversies?

Oh I forgot. You are waging a 'war.' Let's have a real discussion when the battle subsides and you are in control of the myth-making.
Nah, a person has a persona and Jesus was mandated to crucify this persona of Joseph the Jew.

Americans are very vocal about their Jesus and actaully want the rest of the world to know how right they are, while they are totally wrong in the idol they worship.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:44 PM   #3
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It gets better Toto, when I add that the public confession that is required to be counted among the righteous as Christian is like a graven image they wear, that is carved into their own mind as if in stone, right next to the commandments that are already there, and so a 'saved sinner' they are from day one. And they will admit that they are and many would even boast about this too!

It is based on this that they will see humans as basically evil because the paradox is real after they sold their own integrity to this ideal.

Now I do not want to call this spiritual pimping nor do I suggest that it is, but the preacher knows that it works, and public is only public if it is made in public, just as a testator must die before the testament can be in force and so the paradox is branded on them like a number that we all know.

Opposite this would be the Catholic who only needs to listen, but is allowed to fall asleep in church but not long enough to become a loud sleeper between their sit, kneel and stands, and likely will believe everything he was told for as long as he was in church, if he had heard. IOW, the rich man's table is not for them, and only hear when they want to listen and that is all that they really need.
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