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07-18-2001, 03:12 PM | #1 |
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Daniel Wallace on the Resurrection
Wallace starts off with a slap at the hapless Shirley McLaine. There's nothing funnier than a man who believes in talking snakes, resurrections and virgin births accusing another person of being a fruitcake.
I wondered what the actual rates were, so I looked up several polls on the net, but the number of people believing in reincarnation varies with 20-25% being the believable range (though some polls said 60%!). Interestingly, Barna Group reports that 39% of the population believes Jesus was not physically resurrected, a proportion that holds pretty steady even among born-agains (35%)! See the Barna site Evidently lots of Christians think physical resurrection is a loony idea.
Wallace then moves on to the OT first….
Dr. Wallace seems unaware that the Book of Daniel dates from between ~167 and ~164 BCE, according to all serious scholars. So El, or Baal, or Yao, or Yahweh, or whatever we're calling him this week, didn't revealed it in the 6th century BCE.
Actually, it didn't come at this time. And thus, the theological discussion falls apart in a welter of effusive praise:
But ol' El didn't have that insight in the 6th century, the anonymous author of Daniel did in the 2nd. [/list]In the NT era, one religious group in Palestine did not embrace the resurrection as a true doctrine: the Sadducees (cf. Mark 12:18)--that is why they were "sad, you see!" [/list] "Cut! Off the stage! Next!" Wallace compares the Sadducees to those who today are wealthy and reject god for the things of this world, like Televangelists. he then moves on.
A quick run at the NORC GSS data will show that among professors, only 19% list themselves in the "none" column when it comes to religion (off the top of my head). The vast majority believe in the supernatural. But why let facts get in the way of a good diatribe? Having misunderstood the OT and current US religious beliefs (Barna has some fascinating information on how contradictory US religious beliefs are, finding, for example, that 55% of Born-agains do not believe in the Holy Spirit), Wallace suddenly dips into one of those nihilistic passages Christians of his ilk are so well-known for:
Well, it is foolishness, anyway. Reading passages like this is like watching a wound bleed. How could anyone be filled with such hatred for his fellow humans? Wallace relates:
Clean? Elsewhere Wallace refers to Christians as the "salt of the earth." No false modesty among these Christians. Wallace then moves on to explain the significance of the Resurrection. He takes the gospel accounts as "proof" that Jesus lived, died and was resurrected. Critical thinking about these alleged events does not enter into the discussion, of course. For example, he gives us the famous quote:
Said prediction being falsified because there is no prediction that the Messiah would raised on the third day. But facts don't stop Wallace.
The usual Josh McDowell-esque nonsense. Does Nomad really think this guy is a serious analyst? Neither statement is logically true, and the dilemma posed is entirely false from any of several angles, all familiar to freethinkers on this forum. We then get more of the fatuous Josh McDowell nonsense:
This is so awful no reply is needed. Wallace, like so many evangelicals, combines paragraphs of lucidity (his arguments for dismissing the KJV as the best Bible are quite sound) with the most absurd and insane assertions, as if saying so makes it so. The discussion then drones on to the inevitable Bible quotes, which "guarantee" eternal life for believers and claim that humans are totally sinful and in need of redemption. It ends with another moment of ecstatic Christian nihilism:
Further Wallace reviews to follow, when my appetite recovers from all this nihilistic, inhuman hatred of self and others. A "dying world!" Sounds like bad SF from the 1940s... Michael [ July 18, 2001: Message edited by: turtonm ] |
07-18-2001, 05:41 PM | #2 |
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I think that the purpose of the Prof's Soapbox is to sound reasonable, not necessarily to be reasonable. It allows people who want to be Christian to persuade themselves that civilized literate types can be Christian. Wallace is also good at refuting the wretched excesses of his fellow believers, as in his paean to sex (which still has a number of laughable errors - if a truly Christian marriage is stronger than a non-Christian marriage, why do Christians have a higher divorce rate than non-Christians?) |
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