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Old 11-23-2001, 09:56 AM   #1
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This just about sums up the bible for me, especially the old testament. On the basis of the invective used to make prophecies that ultimately failed or were greatly exagerated, are there any christians out there who are prepared to accept that the authors might have got a bit carried away with their verbs and adjectives?
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This just about sums up the bible for me, especially the old testament. On the basis of the invective used to make prophecies that ultimately failed or were greatly exagerated, are there any christians out there who are prepared to accept that the authors might have got a bit carried away with their verbs and adjectives?
Are you prepared to offer some specifics, or were you just venting?

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No your probably right. I can't think of any. Perhaps the opposite is actually true, do you think? One of Jesus parables mentions that 'some seed may fall on stony ground'. If it's the same Middle East were talking about I think this is the height of understatement.

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Actually, a rabbi once made an interesting observation; he said the Sermon On The Mount was a typical example of a person getting carried away with their own rhetoric, so they start off small and reasonable, but conclude by making larger and more unreasonable statements.
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<strong>If it's the same Middle East were talking about I think this is the height of understatement.</strong>
Shouldn't that be the shortness of understatement or something?

English is a strange language, but looking at the people who invented it I suppose you'd guess that anyway.
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Old 12-13-2001, 11:03 AM   #6
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<strong>Actually, a rabbi once made an interesting observation; he said the Sermon On The Mount was a typical example of a person getting carried away with their own rhetoric, so they start off small and reasonable, but conclude by making larger and more unreasonable statements.</strong>
Actually Gurder the Sermon of the Mount was the flamboyant introduction of the Catholic Church.

Remember here that John had just been beheaded which did away with Jewish tradition (yes, read it). From there Jesus left the scene and traveled to a deserted place and onto the height of inspiration where he performed his first miracle, etc.

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offa; snipping (again).

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Offa; "Boro Nut", you have to shed remarks about Prove it. The first thing that fundies will do is put you on the defensive (unless you accept their fairytales). The Scriptures are loaded with hyperbole. Just ask them to show you where it say that Jesus' feet were pierced, or ask them about a virgin that wasn't a Hebrew. They cannot answer those simple questions.

The correct answers are "His feet were not pierced (making a billion idols false, I mean., how many crucifixes do you see without his feet being pierced?). If virginity is defined in cult lines, then, the person not belonging to that cult will never experience virginity.

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Coming from Middlesbrough doesn't exactly give you a full understanding of these biblical subtleties, and the concepts and terminology is often lost on me. What the hell is a virgin?
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<strong>Coming from Middlesbrough doesn't exactly give you a full understanding of these biblical subtleties, and the concepts and terminology is often lost on me. What the hell is a virgin?</strong>
Stop it, please! I just spit my early morning tea all over my keyboard. ROTFLMAO.

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<strong>Coming from Middlesbrough doesn't exactly give you a full understanding of these biblical subtleties, and the concepts and terminology is often lost on me. What the hell is a virgin?</strong>

In Middlesborough, isn't that a term used for girls under the age of twelve?
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