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Jesus Freak · 11-05-2001, 09:12 PM

With 302 contradictions claimed I will have to start with 1. Number 298.
Contradictions
We will start with this easy one. Two different people. In fact there are 28 different Zechariahs in the bible.

More to come!

SingleDad · 11-05-2001, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by Jesus Freak:
<STRONG>With 302 contradictions claimed I will have to start with 1. Number 298.
Contradictions
We will start with this easy one. Two different people. In fact there are 28 different Zechariahs in the bible.

More to come!</STRONG>

You appear to be unclear on the concept. The question is, can you give us a reason to believe they are two different people rather than the various authors of the bible have merely written an inconsistent fiction?

Biblical errancy speaks to the claim that the bible is a primary source of knowledge; if the bible supports two mutually contradictory interpretations equally well then the bible is useless as a primary epistemological source.

[ November 05, 2001: Message edited by: SingleDad ]

nerv111 · 11-05-2001, 09:39 PM

So, how do YOU know which Zechariahs it is referring to?

Oh, and I would love to see you try and tackle some of the biblical absurdities. And please give an explanation other than �God works in mysterious ways� or �it�s a metaphor�; frankly they are getting old.

And, please answer me this� it has been bothering me for a while now. Who exactly was the father of Joseph? Jacob (Mt.19:12) or Heli (Luke 3:23)?

Jesus Freak · 11-05-2001, 09:41 PM

How about #4?

Ahitub = greatgrandpa
Ahimelech = grandpa
Abiathar = father
Ahimelech = son.

Think about your own family. I bet some of you have a similar situation in your family tree.

nerv111 · 11-05-2001, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by SingleDad:

Quote:

You appear to be unclear on the concept. The question is, can you give us a reason to believe they are two different people rather than the various authors of the bible have merely written an inconsistent fiction?

Biblical errancy speaks to the claim that the bible is a primary source of knowledge; if the bible supports two mutually contradictory interpretations equally well then the bible is useless as a primary epistemological source.

Ah, so eloquent� wish I could write like that.

IMO such logic is wasted on Jesus Freak� though I�m hoping that he�ll prove me wrong.

[ November 05, 2001: Message edited by: nerv111 ]

Jesus Freak · 11-05-2001, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by nerv111:
<STRONG>Who exactly was the father of Joseph? Jacob (Mt.19:12) or Heli (Luke 3:23)?</STRONG>

In my bible Mt.19:12 says "For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

If this is the verse your refering to I don't see your logic. But I suspect a type-o or a bad reference.

nerv111 · 11-05-2001, 10:00 PM

Sorry...

I was thinking of something else when typing that... it should be Matthew 1:16...

My bad...

Jesus Freak · 11-05-2001, 10:03 PM

Thats ok.
I thought that was what you were refering to.
I don't have an answer at this time.
I will try to researce and find the answer.

nerv111 · 11-05-2001, 10:05 PM

This is almost turning out to be a chat...

The Guy · 11-06-2001, 07:51 AM

Most apologists I am aware of say that Heli was really Mary's father...

11-05-2001, 09:12 PM	#1
Jesus Freak Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 66	Contradiction? I don't think so! With 302 contradictions claimed I will have to start with 1. Number 298. Contradictions We will start with this easy one. Two different people. In fact there are 28 different Zechariahs in the bible. More to come!

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11-05-2001, 09:39 PM	#3
nerv111 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 421	So, how do YOU know which Zechariahs it is referring to? Oh, and I would love to see you try and tackle some of the biblical absurdities. And please give an explanation other than �God works in mysterious ways� or �it�s a metaphor�; frankly they are getting old. And, please answer me this� it has been bothering me for a while now. Who exactly was the father of Joseph? Jacob (Mt.19:12) or Heli (Luke 3:23)?

11-05-2001, 09:41 PM	#4
Jesus Freak Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 66	How about #4? Ahitub = greatgrandpa Ahimelech = grandpa Abiathar = father Ahimelech = son. Think about your own family. I bet some of you have a similar situation in your family tree.

11-05-2001, 10:00 PM	#7
nerv111 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 421	Sorry... I was thinking of something else when typing that... it should be Matthew 1:16... My bad...

11-05-2001, 10:03 PM	#8
Jesus Freak Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Iowa Posts: 66	Thats ok. I thought that was what you were refering to. I don't have an answer at this time. I will try to researce and find the answer.

11-05-2001, 10:05 PM	#9
nerv111 Regular Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 421	This is almost turning out to be a chat...

11-06-2001, 07:51 AM	#10
The Guy Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Home Posts: 24	Most apologists I am aware of say that Heli was really Mary's father...

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