FRDB Archives

Freethought & Rationalism Archive

The archives are read only.


Go Back   FRDB Archives > Archives > Biblical Criticism - 2001
Welcome, Peter Kirby.
You last visited: Today at 05:55 AM

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-21-2001, 07:56 AM   #1
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Question The antichrists

Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. - 1 John 2:18</font>
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. - 1 John 2:22</font>
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. - 1 John 4:3</font>
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. - 2 John 1:7</font>
These are the sole references to the antichrist in the entire bible. Clearly, whoever wrote these texts was not referring to an individual, let alone a supernatural individual.

How did it come about that many christians have appropriated this term from the Johannine Epistles, and grafted it onto the "beast" of Revelation?

According to Strong's Concordance, "therion" literally means simply, "wild animal." Of course its metaphorical connotation is that of a brutal, savage, bestial man.

The author(s) of the Johannine Epistles make(s) no such connotations. Where is the scriptural basis underlying this extrapolation from "antichristos" to "therion"? Perhaps the custodians of the Book of Revelation slapped the name "John" onto it to establish this connection?

My understanding is that the consensus of scholarly thought has dismissed the idea of common authorship among these Epistles, the Gospel of John, and Revelation.

According to the Epistles, 99% of the posters here are antichrists, and the contemporary existence of antichrists in those days certainly didn't portend the end of the world.

To me, these references in the Johannine Epistles look like just another example of demonizing the opposition, a tactic that is enthusiastically embraced by christians to this day.

Comments?
 
Old 04-21-2001, 11:55 AM   #2
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Post

It seems to be a recurring theme in the Christianity. Stringing together unrelated passages and then claiming that it's proof that the Bible was written to be one book, ususally the King James Version. Another example is the metamorphosis of the talking snake from Genesis into Satan. If so, Satan crawls around on his belly. eats dirt and has his head regularly crushed by humans.
Quote:
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Genesis 3:14-15
[14] And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
[15] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
</font>
[This message has been edited by Pitshade (edited April 21, 2001).]
 
 

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:43 PM.

Top

This custom BB emulates vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.