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Old 05-18-2001, 03:50 AM   #1
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Talking What nice things did Paul say?

I know this will be a stretch for some of you but i'm trying to be nice to the Christians (for a change ) s0...can you think of anything nice Paul ever said (can be from his letters or what his friend Dr Luke wrote - hey Luke thought he was the bee's knees eh? Wouldn't you say Acts is a bit of a Paul-worship, really? )

SO anyway you get much more points if you are an antiChristian. Christians obviously - it's a no-brainer for you, no? But it better really be nice and not just some - stuff - about "oh Paul was being nice when he said 'let them be eternally condemned!!' because Paul was being nice to God in teaching what God says..." - none of that xxxx please folks. Stick to what is nice by any standards - what all can agree is 'nice'.

Thanks everyone

"Speaking the truth in love"

edited for theists sake

[This message has been edited by HelenSL (edited May 18, 2001).]
Old 05-18-2001, 05:24 AM   #2
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1 Corinthians 13:

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.

Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.

It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

For we know in part and we prophesy in part,

but when perfection comes, the imperfect disappears.

When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.

Now we see but a poor reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.

I am certainly not a Christian, but I find this a beautiful, soft and moving passage.

In a word: nice.

Old 05-18-2001, 06:24 AM   #3
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Oh i love that passage, fGlory!!
It's a shame how they cut up the chapters so this is in the previous chapter...
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">And now I will show you the most excellent way. (and so he goes onto say what fGlory quoted about love)</font>
Another shame, Glory is how they divided paragraphs (a man did it of course ) here:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord, always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.</font>
The...NIV (do I love the NIV or what? Away with it!! LOL)
anyway, the NIV does not break between Christ and submit but it does break between Christ and wives. EVEN THOUGH THERE IS ONLY ONE VERB IN THE GREEK COVERING BOTH "SUBMITS" .

fGlory, it must be some mysterious thing that translators know...when one verb covers two places then obviously those two places ought to be in separate paragraphs. A layperson would nver figure out something so counter-intuitive now, would they? Not this one anyway. And i most definitely am a layperson. Try to get ME a job anywhere to do with theology and well if they could swear they probably would,'d know if you'd seen what i would, you really would!!

Anyway so would you read my other post...sigh...


Old 05-19-2001, 02:54 PM   #4
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Philippians 2:1-11:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2"> If you have any encouragement fomr being united with Christ, if any comfort from his love, if any fellowship with the Spirit, if any tenderness & compassion, then make my joy complete by being like-minded, having the same love, being one in spirit & purpose. Do nothing out of selfish ambition & or empty conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourself. each of you should look not only to our own interests, but also to the interests of other.

Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:

Who being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And, being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death,
even death on a cross.
Therefore God exalted him to the highest place,
that at the name of Christ,
every knee should bow,
in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth,
and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the Glory of God the Father. </font>
This passage links the mercy of God with the humility which his children are called to exhibit. True, we fail all too often, but it is a beautiful aspiration nonetheless.
Old 05-19-2001, 10:23 PM   #5
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"Have we not power to eat and drink?"

I love Chicago style pizza and beer and the power to put it away. Thanks Paul

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