The dead seas scrolls actually say that Jesus said " I am not the Messiah that you seek". Also, it says that there is suppose to be two messiahs,whats up with that? If he wasnt the messiah, why did he get crucified? Terrible misconceptions.

Jesus got crucified because he freed Simon Magus who was excommunicated for zealotry. Simon was the other chief priest besides Caiaphas. Simon of Cyrene was an enemy of Rome as was Judas Iscariot who was also crucified with Jesus and Simon. Judas "hanged" himself. The other messiah was John the Baptist and he was executed (but not decapacitated) and this was when the "sun set". Simon was replaced by Johnathan Annas and he was the father who had forsaken Jesus.

So Offa, you do not believe that Jesus supposedly died for our sins? I dont. I believe he died for spreading thoughts and ways that the leaders did not want because then they would lose control over the people.

The Dead Sea Scrolls do not mention Jesus.

Ish

Funnily enough, they don't mention the dead sea either.

Hyuk, hyuk, hyuk...

So, how do you make all these funky funny faces that everyone is using now? Is there a list of them somewhere? I saw one that had a smiley face floating around in a glass jar. Pretty cool stuff!

Ish

http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/cgi-bin...b&box&noframes
Here is the smiley link

Nor does the Tanakh, but you would think so, listening to many Christians.

rodahi

Hmm... Looks like I need to pull up all the articles on the Dead Sea scrolls where I read what they said but they did mention Christ and two messiahs. I dont make these things up for my own benefit. I research alot. I guess I dont have a life.ROFL!!

You might be thinking of the Nag Hammadi stuff - discovered around the same time, except in Egypt. The christians like to invoke the Dead Sea Scrolls because they testify to the accuracy with which the OT books were transmitted.

The Nag Hammadi documents they don't seem to like to talk about as much, since they pose too many problems with respect to the originality of received christianity. They definitely do refer to the "christ" figure though.