I ran across these on another list the other day, and those of you who argue from time to time about this obvious medieval fake may enjoy these, especially the crushing first one:

http://www.humanist.net/appro-sindone/schafersman.html

http://skepdic.com/shroud.html

Michael

Very interesting reading, thank you for the links.

Bede

The fact that the shroud is medieval is never going to stop all the razzmatazz as the books just sell so well. My favourite theory is that the shroud is real and the Church deliberately falsified the tests to cover it up. Disprove that, you sceptics!

Yours

Bede

Bede's Library - faith and reason

LOL!!! Where did you read that one? I'd love to see how they back it up.

--W@L

I was just reading on one of the email lists I'm on from someone who actually believes the Shroud of Turin is the real thing. People will believe anything.

Michael

Some people even believe in a god.

What is even more weird is that a tiny minority of people deny that God exists.

Yes, like only a billion Chinese.


Michael

Good point, I was thinking of the United States. My understanding that there were large numbers of Confucianists, Buddhists, and Taoists in China. As well as millions of Christians. But I'm willing to concede that several decades of harsh governmental persecution of theists is likely to produce a more atheistic population.

That is one way atheists continue to impose their belief system on others. Governmental coercion.

[This message has been edited by Layman (edited July 02, 2001).]

Toto

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Confucianists and Taoists are non-theistic. Buddhists do not worship anything that you would recognize as a god.

Reading the Bible is more likely to produce atheism than governmental persecution. It worked for most of us.