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Old 07-01-2013, 09:28 PM   #1
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Default The Historical Bejeezus

Now available as an e-book on Kindle:

The Historical Bejeesuz (or via: amazon.co.uk) by Robert M. Price

a collection of essays which are much more serious than the title of the book.
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Any idea if this is going to come out in "tangible" form at some point?
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I suspect it will be eventually - from American Atheists Press.
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Another book which, once again, proves Ehrman correct on a numerous amount of points about mythicists in general; e.g., (a) tend to be atheists, (b) self-publish, etc.... I like Bob, just wish he'd work in a more academic capacity--which is what mythicism needs. Preaching to a choir gets one no where. Preaching in front of well-respected academic peers who have to engage you critically, well, that is more important and more necessary.
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Hi Tom - the book is not self published. It's a compilation of articles, some of which were in regular journals, now published by American Atheists Press.

Price has his own reasons for what he does. He has put in his time in academia, engaging his peers. You can always shoot a question to the Bible Geek podcast if you have a suggestion for him. http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/biblegeek.php
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Hi Tom - the book is not self published. It's a compilation of articles, some of which were in regular journals, now published by American Atheists Press.

Price has his own reasons for what he does. He has put in his time in academia, engaging his peers. You can always shoot a question to the Bible Geek podcast if you have a suggestion for him. http://www.robertmprice.mindvendor.com/biblegeek.php
American Atheist Press is not much better than a POD service like Lulu (of which I know first hand); it is in the hands of the President of AA essentially, and while it has a general editor, it's not that amazing. Prometheus Books are somewhat similarly run--know the president of CFI? Chances are good you can publish there.

Now maybe some of the articles were published in regular journals, but not all of them. I know Bob has his reasons--I've worked with Bob before and I like Bob (he's a brilliant guy), but I wish he'd focus on publishing his original research in academia and not through AAP. Books like this fall right into the stereotype that individuals like Ehrman create and are then used to justify their positions. And Bob does this a lot. It is really unfortunate.
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Another book which, once again, proves Ehrman correct on a numerous amount of points about mythicists in general; e.g., (a) tend to be atheists, (b) self-publish, etc.... I like Bob, just wish he'd work in a more academic capacity--which is what mythicism needs. Preaching to a choir gets one no where. Preaching in front of well-respected academic peers who have to engage you critically, well, that is more important and more necessary.
There's unfortunately a grave shortage of academic journals interested in so-called "mythicist" scholarship. I think evaluating the ideas is more important than where they published. I don't dismiss creationism only because its proponents don't publish in academic journals. I dismiss it because it has a less satisfactory explanation for the evidence at hand and proffers the suspension of physical laws as a mechanism. ISo-called "mythicism" is not so easy to dismiss.
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ISo-called "mythicism" is not so easy to dismiss.
The bible factually contains mythology surrounding the events described.


To attribute 100% mythology is easy to dismiss, almost to the point of laughability like Ehrman.

Thats the exact reason why most mythicist cannot even make a case that parallels any other mythicist. There is ZERO consensus in this field.
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ISo-called "mythicism" is not so easy to dismiss.
The bible factuallycontains mythology surround the events described.

To attribute 100% mythology is easy to dismiss, almost to the point of laughability like Ehrman.
Could you rewrite this so it makes sense?

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Thats the exact reason why most mythicist cannot even make a case that parallels any other mythicist. There is ZERO consensus in this field.
I don't think this is any more true of mythicists than it is of historicists.
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I don't think this is any more true of mythicists than it is of historicists.

There is a 99.9999% consensus he existed.

Of that most claim two areas factual and within this group, and there is 100% consensus he was baptized by John and died on a cross.


Only detailed descriptions are debated. Not the whole idea of his existance.
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