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Old 09-18-2013, 10:45 AM   #1
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Default "Mark 16:9-20 as Forgery or Fabrication" by Richard Carrier, Ph.D. (2009) Part II

JW:
This Thread is a continuation of my award winning Thread:

"Mark 16:9-20 as Forgery or Fabrication" by Richard Carrier, Ph.D. (2009)

which is itself based on the following article at ErrancyWiki:

Mark 16:9-20 as Forgery or Fabrication by Richard Carrier, Ph.D. (2009)

This article is already the best article and than some on the Textual Criticism issue of the Ending of "Mark". This Thread will interpolate on the original.

The significance of the Thread is as follows:

Quote:
I think another important "why", not addressed by Dr. Carrier, and quite applicable to his forthcoming HJ/MJ project, is the significance of the LE in the context of supposed historical witness to the supposed resurrection.

Here we have the original Gospel narrative with no resurrection appearance or sighting, explicitly stating that the only visitors to the empty tomb did not tell anyone that Jesus was resurrected. As to source, it agrees with the only other significant witness to Christian assertions, Paul, in that the source for knowledge of Jesus' resurrection is revelation and not historical witness. The addition of the LE converts the source here for "Mark" from revelation to historical witness. The subsequent Gospels "Matthew"/"Luke" use "Mark" as a base, including the empty tomb story, but than add their own versions of resurrection appearance and sightings indicating their only significant source here was "Mark" rather than historical witness.

The most important Christian assertion is that Jesus was resurrected and the best evidence for this is the Christian claim of supposed historical witness to it. Here though, we see that not only was there no original claim of historical witness to the supposed resurrection, but subsequent Christianity forged or fabricated to the original narrative that there was.
Mythpso Facto, there is no historical witness to the supposed resurrection (surprise).

Contra Dr. Carrier, the most Reverend James Snapp is the foremost authority the world has ever known advocating Long Ending. After The Great Skeptical Victory at CARM (my debate with him) he was educated into knowing that Evil retreats when forcibly confronted by good

He has now retreated to the position of only discussing the issue with fellow believers. One current effort of his is disputing that there are no/almost no Manuscripts with Markings at 16:8 indicating that what follows (mostly the LE) has some doubt as to originality.

A relatively new resource for inspection of Manuscripts is:

The Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts [CSNTM]

Skeptical Buyer beware, this is very much a Believer's sight, so do not automatically accept anything other than Manuscript evidence you see with your own eyes. Everything else needs to be Skepvetted.

Continuing on to the Manuscripts:

Gennadius 259

relevant description

Quote:
Mk 16:8 at top of 94b, no special markings
94b



Note that 16:9 starts on the far left, third line from the top. Contra the description above, there are very special Markings exactly at the start of 16:9. The only such special Marking on the page. Without looking at the rest of the Manuscript, the marking here could be just a marking of the Eusebian Canons, which of course ended at 16:8 and/or identification of a popular Lectionary reading starting at 16:9. In general, there is often good evidence that this is what is intended. The problem though is usually only some Eusebian Canon/Lectionary sections are marked and the identification varies. On the other side, only some Textual Variation is marked in the margins and the identification varies. So regarding special scribal notations at 16:9 you can not be sure what was intended (on rare occasion it is spelled out, so to speak).

Let's assume that here the Eusebian Canon is at least one intended reference. Apologists will than spin that this is no evidence whatsoever against LE and can be ignored to conclusion. When properly considered though:
1) This scribe felt it necessary to indicate that 16:9-20 was not in the Eusebian Canon.

2) Presumably the exemplar did the same indicating an existing tradition.

3) 1) and 2) represent respect for the age and value of Eusebius as a Textual Critic which elevates his related witness as evidence.
As I have emphasized here, a related key criterion is the direction of the change in evidence, which here is clearly to Long Ending.

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