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Pitshade · 03-23-2002, 07:01 PM

Genesis 32, where Jacob wrestles with God...and WINS! (oh, and God cheated too!)

Of course there's always Judges 1:19 where God can't defeat the valley dwellers, because of their iron chariots...

mongrel · 03-23-2002, 07:17 PM

The most bizarre part is the bit between "In the beginning..." and "The grace of our lord jeebus christ be with you. Amen."

That part's pretty bizarre.

03-23-2002, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Grumpy:

To me, "bizarre" is shouting down your pal and calling him Satan because your pal doesn't want you to be killed. Oh, and the previous verse has Jesus tell his disciples to be hush-hush about all the Christ-talk; it's a secret, see? Bizarre.

[ March 23, 2002: Message edited by: Grumpy ]

Grumpy when your faith is become a liability to you you will have come a long way. Faith cannot be conceived to exist without doubt and we find that when doubting Thomas was convinced also Peter of faith was left stranded without cloak of faith.

So it is logical after all isn't it?

03-23-2002, 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Pompous Bastard:
2 Samuel, chapter 24.

Yahweh orders David to take a census. After taking said census, David realizes that it was sinful of him to take a census. Yahweh slaughters thousands of Isrealites as punishment.

[ March 23, 2002: Message edited by: Pompous Bastard ]

The sensus confirmed his trail of filthy rags (earned righteousness) which killed them as Isrealites (true righteousness).

Edited to ad that by counting our good deeds they become filthy rags. This is precisely why atheist object to fundy Christianity, and as you see, God doesn't like it either.

[ March 23, 2002: Message edited by: Amos ]

03-23-2002, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by Egoinos:
Genesis 38:7 And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him.

Maybe, but it is popular sport in fundy circles. The firsborn of Judaism is the child within in our mythology and to fornicate its birth (premature rebirth) is to kill the child within. It is also called the sin against the HS in the bible. It is like untimely ripping a child from its mothers womb.

Grumpy · 03-23-2002, 07:37 PM

Most bizarre quote outside the Bible: anything by Amos.

Thanks for playing. Good night. Over and out.

03-23-2002, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by Pitshade:
Genesis 32, where Jacob wrestles with God...and WINS! (oh, and God cheated too!)

Of course there's always Judges 1:19 where God can't defeat the valley dwellers, because of their iron chariots...

But it cost him his femur which is the strongest mucsle in the body to resemble the individual stronghold of our humanity. It's "the tiger in our tank" that must be exhausted so we too can
win in the end without knowing it (sorry I don't know the rest of the story).

Iron chariots is when we have fundamentalist religions and often are in vallys because of it. Many seek help in vallys and vultures gather there to prey on their wounded carcasses. God does not want cowards with iron chariots but hero's with chariots of fire because why would he want heaven to get bogged down with fundy idealogies.

[ March 23, 2002: Message edited by: Amos ]

03-23-2002, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by dwp666:
 No explanation is given as to why but luckily, a helpful couple cut off their son's foreskin and touched Moses' feet with it. Out of an apparent respect for the rite of circumcision, the "loving" God spared Moses' life and the story continues on without any further mention of this bizarre incident.

This is where Moses becomes sensored by natural law and set free form Judaic law. Hence his footsteps will be in which he is circumsized by the will of God (Pantheism) instead of religious law. His hiltop experience had revealed to him that laws are needed for the conviction of sin and with the removal of sin also the slavery of the flesh is removed.

BLoggins02 · 03-23-2002, 08:04 PM

Ummm, all of revelations.

[Aside: Amos, do you have a job? In this job of yours do any of your coworkers understand you? Just wondering.]

mongrel · 03-23-2002, 08:13 PM

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But it cost him his femur which is the strongest mucsle in the body...

Amos, the femur is a bone, not a muscle.

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03-23-2002, 07:01 PM	#11
Pitshade Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Sugar Grove,NC Posts: 4,316	Genesis 32, where Jacob wrestles with God...and WINS! (oh, and God cheated too!) Of course there's always Judges 1:19 where God can't defeat the valley dwellers, because of their iron chariots...

03-23-2002, 07:17 PM	#12
mongrel Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North of the South Pole Posts: 5,177	The most bizarre part is the bit between "In the beginning..." and "The grace of our lord jeebus christ be with you. Amen." That part's pretty bizarre.

03-23-2002, 07:37 PM	#16
Grumpy Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Alaska, USA Posts: 1,535	Most bizarre quote outside the Bible: anything by Amos. Thanks for playing. Good night. Over and out.

03-23-2002, 08:04 PM	#19
BLoggins02 Regular Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 254	Ummm, all of revelations. [Aside: Amos, do you have a job? In this job of yours do any of your coworkers understand you? Just wondering.]

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