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Old 06-16-2003, 06:15 AM   #1
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Default The Two meet

Two humans meet, both with amnesia, they can't remember their names.

A: Who are you?
B: I Am Me, who are you?
A: I am also Me


And the two humans were puzzled, how could both be "Me"? They were two, yet their name is One.


Lets change the scenario.

God and you meet, you have amnesia

God: Who are you?
You: I Am who I Am, who are you?
God: I Am also who I Am


Are we the same? Are we who we are?

God: Who are you?
You: I Am Me, who are you?
God: I Am also Me






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Darth, I think this is more a consequence of the way our languages are structured than a meaningful pointer towards the existence of any God. We all are, in one sense, survival machines; such machines are of necessity each a center of awareness. With God, IMO, there is not a center- although it may be that God can be considered the whole 'field' of awareness. But that denies His existence as an individual being.
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Darth, I think this is more a consequence of the way our languages are structured than a meaningful pointer towards the existence of any God. We all are, in one sense, survival machines; such machines are of necessity each a center of awareness. With God, IMO, there is not a center- although it may be that God can be considered the whole 'field' of awareness. But that denies His existence as an individual being.
I thought he was just saying God has amnesia.

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I'll be the third mod into the pool, and the nasty one at the same time.

I'm not sure what DD is saying exactly, but it's not really an EoG topic.

Off to Elsewhere - if it blossoms into a discussion about "us" being the god that exists, I trust an ~E~ mod will throw it back here.
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Darth, I think this is more a consequence of the way our languages are structured than a meaningful pointer towards the existence of any God. We all are, in one sense, survival machines; such machines are of necessity each a center of awareness. With God, IMO, there is not a center- although it may be that God can be considered the whole 'field' of awareness. But that denies His existence as an individual being.

Why would that deny the existance of God?

If all is one, and God is It, then God is an individual(unique, one), imagine we are the hair on God's hand, then we seem seperate as hair, yet we are part of the one who connects the hand with the foot, the Love wit the mind and so on.

We are like the bacterias in our bodies, who may seem to have individual existance, but then where do "I" start and my body with its myriads of life begin?


God's awareness is absolute, God would know all the atoms in God's body, all the bacterias and viruses, yet God merely observes God's self.

The universe is the macrocosmos our bodies is the microcosmos.

In the image of God according to the bible?




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Darth Dane,

Stop looking for a rational proof of God's existence. You won't find it. The existence of God is hidden in this natural universe (the material plane) and can therefore be perceived only by faith. One gets to see God after one dies (ie the astral body leaves the veil of the material body).
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...imagine we are the hair on God's hand...


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I prefer to imagine we're the hair on his arse. Seems more plausible, with all the shit in the world.
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Stop looking for a rational proof of God's existence. You won't find it. The existence of God is hidden in this natural universe (the material plane) and can therefore be perceived only by faith. One gets to see God after one dies (ie the astral body leaves the veil of the material body).

I disagree, I believe we can see God before we die.

"seek and you shall find"

I prefer to imagine we're the hair on his arse. Seems more plausible, with all the shit in the world.

LOL, yeah I suppose it does look like it at this moment.




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I disagree, I believe we can see God before we die.


If you can leave your body before you die, then yes. Some people manage to do that. But they're few and far between.
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If you can leave your body before you die, then yes. Some people manage to do that. But they're few and far between.

When I came upon the crossroads, I chose the road less traveled by, and that made all the difference.

Do not walk in the paths of other masters, seek what they sought.


Why do think that you have to leave your body to see God?
I see you refer to astral body and so on, if you believe in that, plz explain, as I am versed in the theory of astral and causal bodies, what you mean via that theory.



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