agapeo

Glad ya could join the discussion Starboy. Even though your comments have nothing to do with the topic at hand, we'll forgive nonetheless.

HelenM

Nah, that's not the unforgivable sin, actually...even if you wish it were...

Starboy

I am beginning to realize that this is how Christians rationalize such behavior.

Starboy

Echo

Ever watch true crime documentaries? People often forgive those who have harmed them or their families, even if the one who harmed them never asks to be forgiven or even apologizes.

One would think that if humans could do this, a god could certainly do it as well.

St. Robert

God has forgiven us and paid the penalty for our sin. He is like a judge, who sentences a person for their crime and then tells them that he will do the time for the guilty person. He gives people the choice to accept his payment for their crime or to refuse it and take the punishment upon themselves.

ax

Thank you. You've all proved a piont I was trying to make. You'd think the inspired word of god would be easier to understand wouldn't you?

agapeo

Originally posted by ax:
You're welcome!
Well it would of been easier if you just stated your point and we could of gone from there.
Well, it's not exactly like reading "Dick and Jane" but with a little effort it could be understood. But if you start with the premise that it's not the "inspired word of God" why bother expending the effort? For that matter why go through this charade to prove a point? It seems pointless to me. You could simply state your viewpoint that if the Bible was the "inspired word of God" it would be easier to understand and I could respond -- So! What difference does it make to you?

HelenM

ax, you asked atheists and theists here "What are your views on the unforgivable sin?"

I don't see how you can prove anything about the Bible from the answers given. If you want to prove that the Bible is not easy to understand, you need to use the Bible as source material, rather than a variety of views from atheists and theists in answer to a question you posed.

So - I suggest you pick up a Bible if you are serious about trying to prove that it's hard to understand. I expect lots of people here might agree with you, that it is. But that doesn't prove anything. So I suggest you set about proving it in a more effective way, if that's what you want to do - and you can only do it, by using a Bible. You can't do it simply by collecting 'views' from atheists and theists in answer to a question.

take care
Helen

Shake

From 'that other BB,' Simonline says: According to him then:
1. Believers are under the influence of demonic spirits , and
2. They cannot commit an unforgiveable sin.

OK, whatever.

Ax, it was interesting to see how (as is often the case) when present with a sound logical argument, Xians simply change the subject, pray for your salvation, quote scripture that contradicts other scripture, etc. ... anything but answer the argument against them.

St. Robert says: This from a supposedly omniscient, omnibenevolent being who could have created us w/o the capability to sin, or at least have compassion on those who, through reason have deduced that god doesn't exist, thus "refusing his payment" for some "crime" which he created in the first place.

Omnibenevolent, my ass! He would have had to have created EVIL itself! But, he doesn't exist, so he didn't.

lpetrich

So if you say,

"You Holy Ghost you, you are nothing but a spook!"

that's what will never be forgiven?