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Old 05-21-2003, 02:04 PM   #1
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Default Adams fall

As I understand it after adam ate of the tree sin came into the world.

Not when eve ate it What is that about?

The penalty for adam AND ALL HIS GENERATIONS WAS/IS DEATH.

What is about that?

In the united states if one commits a crime the offender serves time for that crime,if the offender dies the sentence is commuted,no relative of that offender must serve for any unfinished sentence for that crime.

Is there any historical information where any customs of any ancient religion would have relatives of an offender serve the remains of a prison term if the original prisoner had died before the sentence was served.


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Oddly, Genesis says nothing about "sin" coming into the world. And the penalty for Adam is death "in the day that thou eatest thereof" (KJV looks downright legalistic at times). Post-consumption, the penalty was changed: belly-crawling for the serpent, painful childbirth for Eve, and laborious agriculture for Adam "all the days of thy life."

For clarity, it might've mentioned somewhere that these punishments are hereditary, but it doesn't.
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Oddly, Genesis says nothing about "sin" coming into the world. And the penalty for Adam is death "in the day that thou eatest thereof" (KJV looks downright legalistic at times). Post-consumption, the penalty was changed: belly-crawling for the serpent, painful childbirth for Eve, and laborious agriculture for Adam "all the days of thy life."

For clarity, it might've mentioned somewhere that these punishments are hereditary, but it doesn't.
Genesis doesn't, but other places do.

Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
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Default ONE MAN SIN

What about the woman,it was her fault.

She probably told adam if he did not eat relations would be cut)if you know what I mean).

That really did not give adam any choice,did it?
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No sin here. Eve chose wrong action before she ate the fruit which means she gained the knowledge of good and evil in a way God did not anticipate. Upon eating the fruit she became "as a god" just as God said she would. When she offered the fruit to Adam he responded to her as though she was a god [she was] and obeyed by eating the fruit.

There is no sin here! :banghead:

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A semi-detailed treatise on the numerous and insurmountable difficulties associated with the doctrine of original sin:

http://www.acfaith.com/originalsin.html

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A semi-detailed treatise on the numerous and insurmountable difficulties associated with the doctrine of original sin:

http://www.acfaith.com/originalsin.html

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Well written..
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One must learn to read the Bible as a metaphor, every inch of it, and it makes much more sense. Eve never really existed, and Adam never really fell from grace; Instead, this story is about man's original primitive nature, and his emergence into civilization. During the Stone Age, Mankind had a deep relationship with the land, and saw the hand of God everywhere. By eating the "fruit" of civilization, and settling into cities, Mankind lost it's primal ties to God and the land, and thus became "cursed."

Original sin is nothing more than a metaphor for Mankind's willful distancing from Nature, the living and breathing embodiment of the Almighty.
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Default Who told you the bible is a metaphor?

Did GOD tell you personally?

Please tell me GOD came to you in a vision that he wrote the bible as a metaphor.

Please tell me,please.

GOD never told me personally in a vision to read the bible as a metaphor.
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No, I deduced it through the application of logic. I have no doubt every single article listed in the Bible, if interpreted literally, can and will be proven false. The only way to make sense of it and draw spiritual meaning from it is to render it ALL metaphor.
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