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Gemma Therese · 05-27-2002, 04:10 PM

Most of us agree that Ohio is north of Alabama, regardless what one's personal feelings about Ohio or Alabama are. If that is true regardless of emotions, then surely the existence of God is either true or false reagerdless of how one feels about it. Religion is not entirely or even primarily subjective. It something is true, it is true whether I feel it to be or not.

I pray for all the athiests here -- for God is both merciful and just.

In God's Love
Gemma Therese

eh · 05-27-2002, 04:44 PM

You're right. Either God does or doesn't exist. Thus I see 2 possibilites.

One, there is no God and you're wasting your time.

Two, there is a God, but with so many millions to chose from, the odds of your God being the correct one are virtually zero.

It's true regardless of how you feel about it.

Abacus · 05-27-2002, 04:47 PM

Which one?

Gemma Therese · 05-27-2002, 04:50 PM

God is the perfect Being, Creator of heaven and Earth.

God made us to know Him, to love Him, and to serve Him in this world and to be happy with Him forever in the next.

God cannot be understood expect by Himself. (Thomas Merton)

In God's Love,

Gemma Therese

Jayhawker Soule · 05-27-2002, 04:55 PM

This is not a discussion ...

Gemma Therese · 05-27-2002, 05:04 PM

The existence of God is not a debate -- it is a truth.

You're in my prayers -- always.

In God's Love,

Gemma Therese

Jobar · 05-27-2002, 05:20 PM

Gemma, if you are here to preach to us, we have a place specifically for that.

If however you are here to express your ideas of why there is (or is not) a God or Gods, this is the place for it.

Fair warning- while you are welcome to come here and witness to the heathen, it's a sure bet that the heathens here will witness back.

Ion · 05-27-2002, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemma Therese:
<strong>The existence of God is not a debate -- it is a truth.
...
Gemma Therese</strong>

Any proof outside of religious books, like the Bible?

Thor Q. Mada · 05-27-2002, 06:11 PM

Most of us agree that Ohio is north of Alabama, regardless what one's personal feelings about Ohio or Alabama are. If that is true regardless of emotions, then surely the existence of God is either true or false reagerdless of how one feels about it. Religion is not entirely or even primarily subjective. It something is true, it is true whether I feel it to be or not.

Dear Gemma,
If somebody would have called Ohio-Alabama, and Alabama-Ohio then Alabama would be North of Ohio. Therewith I mean that perception is everything and religion is entirely subjective because it is man made. Nowhere there is the slightest form of evidence of approval of any god for all the nonsense spread on this earth by all kinds of prophets. Especially the catholic church should just shut-up in shame. It is a scandal spread over 2000 years.

Abacus · 05-27-2002, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemma Therese:
<strong>The existence of God is not a debate -- it is a truth.

You're in my prayers -- always.

In God's Love,

Gemma Therese</strong>

I am sad to inform you that you have been deceived. Your god is a false idol. Zeus is the one, true god. This is not debatable, it is the truth. Bow down to your maker, the glorious Zeus, and be saved!

Heh! This preaching is easy stuff! All you have to do is make it all up.

05-27-2002, 04:10 PM	#1
Gemma Therese Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: new york Posts: 608	Does God Exist? Most of us agree that Ohio is north of Alabama, regardless what one's personal feelings about Ohio or Alabama are. If that is true regardless of emotions, then surely the existence of God is either true or false reagerdless of how one feels about it. Religion is not entirely or even primarily subjective. It something is true, it is true whether I feel it to be or not. I pray for all the athiests here -- for God is both merciful and just. In God's Love Gemma Therese

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05-27-2002, 04:44 PM	#2
eh Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 624	You're right. Either God does or doesn't exist. Thus I see 2 possibilites. One, there is no God and you're wasting your time. Two, there is a God, but with so many millions to chose from, the odds of your God being the correct one are virtually zero. It's true regardless of how you feel about it.

05-27-2002, 04:47 PM	#3
Abacus Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Dakota Posts: 2,214	Which one?

05-27-2002, 04:50 PM	#4
Gemma Therese Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: new york Posts: 608	God is the perfect Being, Creator of heaven and Earth. God made us to know Him, to love Him, and to serve Him in this world and to be happy with Him forever in the next. God cannot be understood expect by Himself. (Thomas Merton) In God's Love, Gemma Therese

05-27-2002, 04:55 PM	#5
Jayhawker Soule Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,777	This is not a discussion ...

05-27-2002, 05:04 PM	#6
Gemma Therese Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: new york Posts: 608	The existence of God is not a debate -- it is a truth. You're in my prayers -- always. In God's Love, Gemma Therese

05-27-2002, 05:20 PM	#7
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Gemma, if you are here to preach to us, we have a place specifically for that. If however you are here to express your ideas of why there is (or is not) a God or Gods, this is the place for it. Fair warning- while you are welcome to come here and witness to the heathen, it's a sure bet that the heathens here will witness back.

05-27-2002, 06:11 PM	#9
Thor Q. Mada Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Asia Posts: 3,558	Most of us agree that Ohio is north of Alabama, regardless what one's personal feelings about Ohio or Alabama are. If that is true regardless of emotions, then surely the existence of God is either true or false reagerdless of how one feels about it. Religion is not entirely or even primarily subjective. It something is true, it is true whether I feel it to be or not. Dear Gemma, If somebody would have called Ohio-Alabama, and Alabama-Ohio then Alabama would be North of Ohio. Therewith I mean that perception is everything and religion is entirely subjective because it is man made. Nowhere there is the slightest form of evidence of approval of any god for all the nonsense spread on this earth by all kinds of prophets. Especially the catholic church should just shut-up in shame. It is a scandal spread over 2000 years.

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