Stormy

My denomination is... mankind.

I am a child of God... as we all are.

I believe in Christ.

GunnerJ

No.

Which god?

No, only the dogmatism that prevents the believer from changing his or her mind.

EDIT:

Your thinking seems a bit confused. Why should you have to be persuaded that many don't think this way? Do you have any evidence or reasoning to establish that many do?

Stormy

I think that it is human nature to seek out others to agree with us.

I also think that we feel that our position somehow has more merit if it is more widely accepted.

For that reason, I do think, that people who do not believe in God are every bit as guilty of trying to influence the free choices of others as any person of faith.

Just add a little bit of dogma.

Godot

Maybe you need to lurk around some of the other threads, Stormy. Atheism is *not* a religion.
From Encarta Oline Dictionary:
*sigh* You've caught on to our little scheme. Just like
Dr. Richard Paley.

beth

Well, since I am probably the mother who did not want her children to be baptised, I can say that you are wrong. My kids are ten and seven. Too young, I think to become baptised. I want my children to have the guiltless greedom to chose Christianity or any other faith. I was never given that. I do not want to push my agenda on anyone, but I also want for people to understand that just because I am an atheist, I am not evil.

I am the volunteer who helps your child to read. I am the volunteer whom your child hugs when they see me simply because they crave affection and don't receive enough at home. I am the friend whom your teen comes to when trying to decide whether or not to have sex. I am also the one who encourages that child to abstain until there is no doubt and the child is mature enough to pay the consequences of sex. I am also the one whom your child comes to when suicidal and tries to help your child see the point of living.

The only agenda that I push is love and tolerance. Keep your faith at home in your closet or in your church. I am tired of being preached at and to made to feel guilt because of my disbelief. I am tired of manipulation and underhanded threats of hell.

...and if I truly wanted to push my agenda, I assure you, I would be a divorced woman with secular children. Mommies do have MUCH influence, ya know.

Stormy

Actually to tell the whole truth...

I was just messing with you guys.

But I do think, that sometimes a person needs to take a closer look within.

Many times the traits that we fault others for, are also running rapid in ourselves.

If an Atheist is to be a person who respects the right of choice for all people ... then they must also respect the fact... that many have chosen the path of faith.

beth

No, I think we burned you and now you are trying to back out. After all the hell I have been through and all the pride I've swallowed to keep my children Christian, NEVER use me in your little atheist agenda equations again, please.

pz

No. You are just another person infected with the disease of religion.YES.No. I'd like to see them cast off the crap cluttering up their brains, but as long as they keep it to themselves, don't try to contaminate the body politic with it, and are kept aware of the fact that their god-beliefs are nothing but quaint and sometimes rather nasty superstitions that do not deserve any special treatment, they can go on deluding themselves. I didn't answer yes to it all. Even if I had, though, your conclusion is nonsense. Everyone dies. Your so-called "true" gospel also leads to death...and along the way, it convinces people to waste the one life they get to live.

Stormy

blondegoddess : There you are.

I could not speak to you on the other thread. Christians are not allowed to spread their tales on some of the areas of this forum.

But I did find that you talked out of both sides of your mouth. Earlier you had said that the children could be raised in faith... but then when baptism was mentioned you became all unglued.

Surely if you do not believe, then what difference would it make that the children took one extra bath?

You are right. Mothers have a lot of influence. But God has more.

My parents were both atheist.

BTY: I am not a person who thinks an atheist is incapable of doing good. I suppose that was the reason for your self-gratifying editorial?

Stormy

I would think that you would know...

Christians don't burn!