lunachick

It's late and I've been pondering. I have a couple of questions that I'm not sure can be answered, but I was hoping someone might have some insights...


The OT is written before Christ, right? The NT written after Christ.

Both the OT & the NT were supposedly the word of the one Abrahamic God, right? The one that is worshipped through JC today.


What I'm wondering is...what happened between the OT and the NT to make the birth of Jesus necessary in God's plan? What was it that was supposed to change, as written/to-be-written, in the two Testaments?

Am I making sense?

Cheers.

Magus55

Not sure i get your meaning. Are you asking what made God decide to come to Earth?

lunachick

Perhaps. Yes.
It is a very broad question, isn't it? Sorry.


I guess, I am asking that - God wanted to change so much that he had to scrap his original draft (the OT), and replace it with a new plan (the NT).

So he must have seen bugs in the OT - some imperfections in his creation. He had to come down to do the repair and maintenance work, by making alterations, additions and deletions, etc, to his creation and his WORD. I think. Yeah, so what was it that made the big landlord in the sky come down? And what was he expecting the outcome of that to be, in the long term [of his creation], via the word of the new book?

Oh, shit - what am I REALLY asking?!

111111

Both Testaments are encoded mythologies that contain the very essential Truths of God: Truths that Mankind must work diligantly at decoding and analyzing. By delving deep and far into Bibilical learning, one can uncover startling Truths about reality, life, and the Source Itself. Literal interpretations of the Bible are as meaningless as not reading it at all.

lunachick

I could say the same thing about the study of the tarot. A good tarot deck is layered and layered with symbols and their meanings.

But why did God make the OT virtually obselete and replace it with the NT? What was it that he had to change, and why did he choose the method he did (the life of Christ) to do it?

Spaz

I would have to say that god changed because they're written by different cultures.

yguy

Can't give the O-fficial Christian® view on this, but I don't see it as a mistake that He had to correct. He must have sensed that the Israelites had rebellion on their minds, which is why He called Moses into His office, so to speak. The 10C's would have been unnecessary otherwise, any more than telling a teenager that if he gets one more speeding ticket he can't drive any more is necessary until he actually GETS a speeding ticket.

You have probably heard that the ceremonial laws were fulfilled by the Crucifxion and Resurrection, that all the animal sacrifices were representative of Christ's personal sacrifice. It reminds me of the movie, "Karate Kid", where the kid is sanding the guy's floor, painting his fence, etc. with the understanding the guy will teach him karate. Finally, having done all this menial labor seemingly for nothing, he blows up at the guy and starts to stalk off, at which point the guy shouts, "Daniel-san! Show me 'sand floor'! Show me 'pent fence'!", etc. and as he obeys, the guy throws punches which these motions block...and of course then the light goes on. I think ceremonial laws had a similar intent. The Israelites were supposed to wonder why the hell they were killing all these animals, that someday the light would come on. Most just went through the motions, going along to get along, just as so many Christians do today; but perhaps a few, like Moses, Joshua and their ilk, had a spirit like Daniel-san.

As for the Atonement itself, I look at it as the greatest sting operation ever. God tricked satan into accepting an innocent man into Hell, thus breaking the contract that had existed between him and God with respect to satan's earthly dominion from the time Adam fell.

111111

Exactly. Animal sacrifice was but a precursor, a sacred action without Time or Space, that presaged Jesus' sacrifice on the cross. Remember, God is beyond Time, and so are we, if we but break down the artificial restraints that we have placed about ourselves.

AquaVita

I think this would be best off in BC&A

mark9950

First of all abraham lived in UR where many pagan religions and gods existed,how do we know that the god abraham worshipped was the so called real creator God of the bible.At that time probably the language akkadian was spoken and of course many other ancient languages,but the hebrew language came long after abraham.

Here is the timeline of the ancient civilations

http://margewargis.50g.com/Timeline_1/

If you look on the web you can find many more.

I do not know what dates that abraham lived,but if he lived in the area where ancient religions and gods were worshipped.

Most likely there was a huge influence of gods on many ancient stone writings that were written such as enuma elish and epic of giglamesh.

To understand the mindset of the characters and ancient writers you must understand who these people were,where they lived and what influence and culture they had.