Gemma Therese

"If one looks at the Catholic Church today, one will see plainly that no other human organization, even the United Nations, so transcends the limits of every human political, economic, or cultural institution."

Benedict Ashley, OP

Yellum Notnef

What does it accomplish to post yet another pro Catholic quote from yet another Catholic leader?

What does it prove?

Gemma Therese

That you can't refute it. If you could, why didn't you?

Gemma Therese

Yellum Notnef

Theres nothing to refute.
You simply posted an OPINION from a Catholic about the church. I,not being a member of your cult,have a different OPINION.

There are no FACTS here to refute.

Mageth

"If one looks at the Catholic Church today, one will see plainly that no other human organization, even the United Nations, so transcends the limits of every human political, economic, or cultural institution."

Yeah, including pedastery.

cunegund

Before I'd try and refute this...I'd need to understand it.


I'd need an explanation of the "limits"...what they are.

I'd also need an example of how the Catholic Church "transcends" them.

I'm probably in agreement that this is just an opinion of someone who's tooting the horn of his organization.

knowwhatimean?

edit cuz I can't type

Rhea

Yeah, all the other organizations try to work within the limits of human interaction. The RCC transcends them (violates them). As was noted, pedophilia... greed, materialism..

Heh, heh. Good one.

Goliath

Gemma Therese,

I have no idea what you mean by a "limit of a political, economic, or cultural institution," or what it means to transcend a said limit.

There is nothing to refute in your quote above, since your assertion is nothing but gobbeldygook until you rigorously define what you're talking about (or, if you're going to use undefined terms, then state your undefined terms and the axioms that go with them).

Sincerely,

Goliath

christ-on-a-stick

So far as I can tell, an OP consisting solely of an attributed quote doesn't exactly qualify as something suited for an upper forum. Merely my humble opinion.

Rousseau_CHN

Transcend?

I believe the problem of all religions lie with that one word: transcend.

Why transcend?

To go beyond what is...to go beyond the limit of being...to be supra-being.

The ardent belief of theist that only through total "emancipation" from the physical world can we achieve ____________, you fill in the blanks. (Nirvana, perfect harmony, salvation).

That ardent belief is at the same an insult to humanity. Men are useless. The UN is useless. What's the use of the United Nations? All it does is feed the people (WFP), educate the people (UNICEF), and heal (WHO). These are not half as important as what the Catholic Church is doing.

I read somewhere about an article about the transcendental and the very not-transcendental.

It says: God, I know that you are everywhere, but all I need is you to be here.