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Old 03-04-2003, 10:16 PM   #281
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What moral convictions? Where does Jesus or one of the apostles say it's OK to break a bruised reed?

Ridiculous.

They had too much power and unchallengeable authority. And it just amazes me that more atheists don't appreciate what Bush is doing since they hope in man's power to put an end to evil.

I have no such vain hopes.

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Old 03-04-2003, 10:17 PM   #282
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Fenton you are being very disingenuous here. You have steadfastly refused to stop this nonsense in spite of my offers to ignore each other. I post stuff on thread that you don't like, so you attack me personally. Most Christians either ignore you or leave, but I did not. However if you continue to refuse, I will put you on my ignore list, much as I hoped for a better resolution.

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Listen. I`ve already told you that I was going to leave you alone for now,but would still be patrolling and blowing my whistle whenever I find you being dishonest or just need to be reminded of something that might have slipped your mind.

You are the one who went nuts and kept it going trying to prove that you`re a better witness and person than Hitler.
I will admit that my first post on this thread was a lighthearted joke about a ridiculous subject,but I did wait until the thread had taken a slow 5 page stroll right into th dumpster before getting involved.

My first interaction with you in this thread was to alert you to fact that we don`t think we are "holy" despite how many times you assert it.

My second interaction with you in this thread was to inform you that your assertion that atheists here have said "no Christians have ever done anything good" was pure baloney.

You then gave us a treat with your "thread highlights" where you wrongly accused me of misquoting you AGAIN even though I never have and you know it. This is when it started to get bad.

The there was that stuff about atheists and sinning.

And then it all went to Hell when all your tactics backfired on you again and I told you that you were the worst witness I`ve ever seen.
Then you compared yourself to Hitler while at the same time many of the people you angered at the begining of the thread came back to try to get some unanswered questions answered.
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Old 03-04-2003, 10:42 PM   #283
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I did wait until the thread had taken a slow 5 page stroll right into th dumpster before getting involved.
What's the point then? Just to jump on somebody who's already down? I see no other possible reason. You guys keep saying I'm not worth answering, I make no sense, etc, yet you feel the need to point it out and throw in personal epithets. I'm sure I have made mistakes and errors of judgement, but if they are as many as you say, why do you need to take any advantage, especially when their are five other guys ready to get on my case?

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My first interaction with you in this thread was to alert you to fact that we don`t think we are "holy" despite how many times you assert it.
I've decided you are right about that, and that the Rad police have a different motive. However I will avoid the flame war which would surely start if I dared to mention it.

They can kick me out for saying so, but well moderated forums will survive and grow, and poorly moderated ones won't. In the latter case there will be nothing left but a bunch of Jerry Springer fans.

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In the latter case there will be nothing left but a bunch of Jerry Springer fans.

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As if that's not enough to start a flame war.
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Old 03-04-2003, 11:03 PM   #285
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What's the point then? Just to jump on somebody who's already down? I see no other possible reason. You guys keep saying I'm not worth answering, I make no sense, etc, yet you feel the need to point it out and throw in personal epithets. I'm sure I have made mistakes and errors of judgement, but if they are as many as you say, why do you need to take any advantage, especially when their are five other guys ready to get on my case?

Let me see if I can get this straight......
When we find Radorth on his back like an overturned turtle we should let him get away with telling lies like "atheists here have said no Christians have ever done anything good" because poor Rad is already hurt enough.

Is that how you`d like the rules adjusted to help your mission?



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I've decided you are right about that, and that the Rad police have a different motive. However I will avoid the flame war which would surely start if I dared to mention it.


I won`t even ask,but I`m sure someone else will.

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They can kick me out for saying so, but well moderated forums will survive and grow, and poorly moderated ones won't. In the latter case there will be nothing left but a bunch of Jerry Springer fans.
This is not the first time you`ve predicted the future of this site and it didn`t get you kicked out then. I doubt it will happen this time either.
And why should you be looking out for the longevity of this site? Aren`t we just promoting lies?

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I don`t care for Jerry Springer.
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Hitler's Christianity is off-topic here, so I won't dwell on it. Except to point out that Hitler's disagreements with the Church don't mean that he wasn't a Christian. And that Hitler approved of religious education in schools and plainly said so. And that "perhaps the most striking of all", a decree signed by Martin Bormann (who WAS an atheist) isn't evidence that HITLER was an atheist.

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No that's Fenton's tactic. I've actually tried three times to get back on thread after he started in on my personal faults.
You are lying, Radorth. If you were serious about getting this thread back on track, you would have ANSWERED my question by now. A question which is entirely relevant to the topic of this thread.

But, for some reason, you dare not answer it.

Even if you won't answer, I'd still like to know WHY you won't answer, as this is far from clear.
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My apologies to Fenton and McDarwin- an honest mistake hardly deserving of the vitriol IMO.
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He shook his feet off long ago. Wise choice.

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Yada yada. Still waiting for you to list the similarities in behavior. Rad
Similarities in whose behaviors? If it is yours with Hitler's I suggest you read a previous response where I already dealt with that. Sorry, but I don't feel like repeating myself because of your inability to deal with things.
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When we find Radorth on his back like an overturned turtle we should let him get away with telling lies like "atheists here have said no Christians have ever done anything good" because poor Rad is already hurt enough.
No if I'm wrong you should say so. But in your case you just whine and moan and derail the thread- along with four other known vigilantes. Your intention here is simply to slander me, not correct mistakes, as proven by this statement from you:

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I think he does that on purpose.
This was your response to one or two incidences of quoting the wrong person in the lat six months. Sorry, that is intentional slander, when in my case I misread something and had to admit I made erros of judgement.

You also apparently erased the vitriol I saw last night relating to this totally innocent mistake. That is a hopeful sign I suppose.

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But, for some reason, you dare not answer it.
Heh. Yeah Jack your questions really scare me. I'm sorry. The last worthy question I saw came from Daggah, which I answered carefully. I'm sure my position on your question is quite clear by now, but if you want to repeat it, go ahead. I'm quite sure I've heard and answered it many times.

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No vitriol from me (although I admit I'm a bit vexed you couldn't even get my name right in your apology). Much more than an apology, I would prefer an answer to my questions, which I asked seriously and (I thought) politely, which you conveniently avoided answering when you confused me with Fenton.

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What, besides somebody's self-identification, should I use to judge whether or not they are a Christian? And now to go from the general to the personal: if I'm not to just take your word for it, Radorth, that you are a Christian, what behavior of yours do I have to judge your claim against?
Radorth, you still haven't given us any reasons why we should be taking your word for anything when it comes to Christianity.
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