mark9950

God is an attitude and a belief?

Looks like that you said God may not be real just like apollo and zeus

Why not as long as I feel sorrowful(repent your definition of,this was your definition you said nothing about holy spirit or anything else) of my sin I will be forgiven,right.

That means that if I worship apollo and feel sorrowful about it,I can keep doing it as long as I feel sorrowful afterwords,right?

Beside traditional christianity says the laws is done away with by it being nailed to the cross.There is no law.When there is no law,there is no sin,when there is no sin there is no more need for a savior.


No lightning bolt yet.I am still waiting.

Kosh

You see, here's the problam Luna! If God exists, he did the following things:

- Provided extremely poor evidence for his existance
- Provided contradictory evidence for the following parts of this story: Creation, Noah's Flood, Exodus, Crucifixion of Jesus.
- Gave me a rather high IQ with which to discern facts from bullshit.
- Provided nothing but inadequate arguments in the form of apologetics to try and back his claims
- Sent dimwits who make those bad arguments and commit incredible logical fallacies in the process, begging the question "If you're such an obvious idiot, why should we believe ANYTHING you say?"

In short, if God exists, he seems to have set me up for disbelief. Since the claims are that God really wants me to believe, then it is only logical to conclude that this God MUST BE ficticious, or incompetant.

Magus55

We believe in God, atheists don't believe in God ( or lack belief in him - which is the same thing no matter how you word it)



Why would you feel bad about doing it, if you really wanted to keep doing it? Talk about some flawed logic. When you apologize to someone, are you apologizing to them, not because you are sorry, but because you want to keep doing what ever you did to them afterward?

Apparently i was right about you being clueless about Christianity. Where did you get the idea that the laws were nailed to the cross? Death and sin were nailed to the cross, not the laws.


God isn't Zeus and doesn't strike people down with lightening bolts for blasphemy. If you want to blasphemy and hate Him, thats your choice - but He told you what your punishment will be for doing so.

Answerer

I see, because the bible says so.

Nevertheless, your LORD is not giving any hints in above statement for the timeframe of upholding his constant behaviour.

EarthGirl

But why did God make the OT virtually obselete and replace it with the NT? What was it that he had to change, and why did he choose the method he did (the life of Christ) to do it? [/B][/QUOTE]

[EG] Very good questions. And, I have yet to ever hear a good explaination from a Christian...

God changed His mind!?! Perhaps it is time for a third testiment?

Fr.Andrew

(Magus55): Please show me a passage where God says, hmm, i was gonna do this, but I think ill do this instead.
(Fr Andrew): How about "My first effort was a dismal failure, so I think I'll destroy everything and try something new."?--which is essentially His declaration preceding the flood.
God obviously thought He had a viable plan when He created the universe, saw that things were "very good" and told everyone to multiply....but then He changed His mind.

or

How about His promise to David..."And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established forever."--2 Samuel 7:16
God apparently changed His mind about that, too, for He later cursed Coniah (a descendent of David) thusly...i.e., "...no man of his (Coniah's) seed shall prosper in his days, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah."--Jeremiah 22:30

And God must have changed His mind once again at that point, for one of Coniah's sons (Zedekiah) did sit on the throne of David.

keyser_soze

Happy to comply:
Exodus 32
11 But Moses sought the favor of the LORD his God. "O LORD ," he said, "why should your anger burn against your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians say, 'It was with evil intent that he brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to wipe them off the face of the earth'? Turn from your fierce anger; relent and do not bring disaster on your people. 13 Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: 'I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.' " 14 Then the LORD relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened.

keyser_soze

Too easy....

CX

It seems to me the simplest answer is the one promulgated by critical scholars based on the literary and historical evidence rather than dogma and theology.

Jesus, if he existed, was an observant Jew interested in reform and the preaching of the immanent kingdom of god. This message got coopted by Paul and in the transition from a primarly sectarian Jewish offshoot to an entirely new largely Gentile religion the authors of the New Testament texts were primarily concerned with tying Xianity and Jesus to Jewish history. Which shows the influence of Graeco-Roman ideas about religion (namely that they should have the air of antiquity). Consequently, the gospel authors especially, used quasi-midrashical methods and literary devices to retroject their founder/leader into Jewish history and interpreted the Jewish scriptures in light of traditions about Jesus.

CX

To all, could we please refrain from rhetoric and stick to dicussion of the topic? Thanks.