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Old 06-26-2003, 08:16 AM   #1
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yeah its the talmud that they got the qoutes from. i did actualy get this from a "racist" site though.

i have read and heard a few things from ernst zundel and david duke. they both seem like inteligent people who make valid arguments.

what do you guys make of these people like zundel and duke?

my findings are incomplete so i hope no body has a heart attack when i ask this. but was there a holocaust or not? there is a lot of strong arguments made by zundel and a few others out there. that and the whole zionism thing along with this blatent hate literature that makes up the talmud. its all really mind numbing to me as i put the pieces together and figure out whats real and not.
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my findings are incomplete so i hope no body has a heart attack when i ask this. but was there a holocaust or not? there is a lot of strong arguments made by zundel and a few others out there. that and the whole zionism thing along with this blatent hate literature that makes up the talmud. its all really mind numbing to me as i put the pieces together and figure out whats real and not.
Yeah I've been there, but I'm pretty damn sure there was a holocaust man (as sure as anyone can without actually being there ) I've heard in some places that the numbers were slightly exaggerated or something, but I dunno if there's truth to that or not. There were communists and homosexuals, etc. also killed in the holocaust that weren't jewish that don't get recognized a whole lot, but that doesn't mean there wasn't a holocaust. I've read a lot of that stuff and I used to be more on the palestinian side of the israeli-palestine thing because of it, but then some of it I think is just propaganda and now I'm of the opinion that neither side is doing a good job of anything. But enough of that, I have heard a lot of things about jews (the middle eastern kind anyway, probably propaganda) being racist, etc. I don't know the whole truth.
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Thumbs down Welcome to the Aryan Brotherhood membership drive...

...Please check your brain at the door.

Notice how York started by asking loaded questions about the Jewish religion, shifted to Holocaust denial, then the stereotypes of greedy Jews, and then to attacks on just "Jews."

Notice, too, how he not so gracefully expresses outrage at Jewish condemnation of Christ (a hallmark of white supremacy belief is the almost universal claim about "doing the Lords work" as they plot and hope to carry out another attempt at the "Final Solution;" though of course only a minority of Christians are stupid enough to believe this nonsense), and has implied in his last post that these terrible characteristics are "implanted" in Jews (ie they are not reformable, so what alternative is there....mmm, let's think..?)

What will likely soon follow is how they Jews have poisoned the white race and are all Christ killers, manipulationg the other inferior races such as Blacks to destroy the civilized White man...

You guys are responding to a racist with a modem who's following the outline of an AB recruiter's pamphlet.

How pathetic. He can't just come-out and spew his mindless crap, but instead feels out the audience to discern whose really naive enough to buy into his version of history and "facts" which for far too long have suppressed by the Jewish conspiracy...

Honest questions, indeed
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Old 06-26-2003, 07:56 PM   #4
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It should have been pretty clear to everyone when he asked whether the holocaust was real that this is just some neo-nazi jackoff pretending to be a befuddled innocent.
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It should have been pretty clear to everyone when he asked whether the holocaust was real that this is just some neo-nazi jackoff pretending to be a befuddled innocent.
It was to me. I'd'a delivered the spanking myself, but I'm not up on my Talmud or commentaries.

How dishonest can you get? Dude, just trot out your odious bullshit ... into the light where everyone can see it. Then see what happens.
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It should have been pretty clear to everyone when he asked whether the holocaust was real that this is just some neo-nazi jackoff pretending to be a befuddled innocent.
Never under estimate the potential ignorance of the masses. But I shall concede I should have at least suspected him.
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Old 06-27-2003, 06:03 AM   #7
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excuse me for not being as intelectual as the rest of you might be. im not hiding the fact i got most of this from whats called a "racist" site. the site in question then sent me off to "jewish Racist" sites that seemed inline with the racist one.

at this point everything looks crazy to me. i dont have all the answers and can only describe how i feel now. the zionist jews scare me if all this im reading is for real.

thanks to those who posted the talmud links. i will read them and once i get valid retorts i will go back the the racist site and ask for clarification.

the halocaust i was asking about is the notion of gas chambers and creamations. the evidence brought forth by ernst zundle is very valid in my eyes. the holocaust of shooting people in the street obviously did happen. axis killed their enimies just like allies killed theirs. each side has skeletons in its closet.

york the anti-semite racist gentile siging off.
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I can't believe people here fall for York. The I think David Duke is a swell kinda guy line didn't get you?

I am a little bit ashamed of the lot of you right now.
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eh, I have met people more ignorant then he pretended to be.
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Old 06-27-2003, 07:41 AM   #10
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Default you dont lsten

this is the first time ever i have bothered to check into this holocaust, jews and nazi stuff. if you cant imagine my shock to what i read then re-read my questions. what the hell am i supposed to think when all i read at the beginning of an investigation is that the jews are wicked and their holy book inspires hate?

i listened to about a 1 hour and 25 minute court hearing for ernst zundel. he defended himself admirably and i feel he made sense.

i checked out one of the links given that dismisses the false accusations about the talmud. like balaam being jesus and having been boiled in hell in hot seamen or excrement.

david duke uses the talmud accusations as his main piece in arguments. Obviously as i read more my belief in him will fall as it has after reading about jesus and mary.

gimmie a break please. i came to this site with these questions cuz i figured the most intelligent people come here compared to anywhere else i know of. that includes online or off.

im sorry its a touchy subject. but my title is correct and should not have confused any of you what side of the fence I’m coming from. Strike down what I’m saying wrong with links or arguments. This is what i really wanted. My study is obviously incomplete.
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