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Old 04-26-2003, 06:26 AM   #11
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YHWH means I (Y) am the Life (HWH).

It is the Jewish god of physical life taken from the Indian vedic god Shiva(sHiWaH).

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Actually, there is no "h" in the word "shiva". "s+h" is only the inaccurate English rendering of the Sanskrit palatal silibant, which has its own single sign in Indian writing systems. There is also no "h" or visarga at the end of the word. Furthermore, the diety later identified as 'Siva is actually referred to as Rudraa in the Vedas.
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YHWH means I (Y) am the Life (HWH).

It is the Jewish god of physical life taken from the Indian vedic god Shiva(sHiWaH).
YHWH is from Hebrew, a semitic language. Unless the semitic languages came from the Indo-European languages (which I think you'd have a hard time proving), you're flat wrong. One of many wrong attempts to connect the religion of the Bible to borrowing from other sources.
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I read somewhere (sorry, can't remember where just now) about an Egyptian god with the same name, called Nuk Pu Nuk, who was apparently the prototype for the Israelite God. Anyone ever come across this? I'd like to know more about it if any of you can tell me anything more.
Clay tablets found at Ugarit and Ebla tell us that Canaanites were worshipping a deity called "Yaw" (Ugarit) and "Ya" (Ebla) centuries before there were any Israelites.
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Unless the semitic languages came from the Indo-European languages (which I think you'd have a hard time proving), you're flat wrong. One of many wrong attempts to connect the religion of the Bible to borrowing from other sources.
I dont think so. You can read the Indian law of Manu doormann.org/manuslaw.txt and can find all that rituals, which is claimed as Judaism origin in plan text. Look i that code for the laws against woman, for firstborn, for twiceborn ,for moon rituals on fullmoon, for babtism rituals, especially. This Indian laws can be found also in the torah/bible as the mosaic laws and in the Qu'ran. Ask woman in India, Nigeria, Iran, and countries with Christian laws about her sexual freedom, and what are the detailed laws are to them. Look in the Hammurabi code doormann.org/hammur.htm for laws about "If a man put out the eye of another man, his eye shall be put out - If a man knock out the teeth of his equal, his teeth shall be knocked out." and repeat, that the mosaic laws of the bible are not taken from other sources.

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Actually, there is no "h" in the word "shiva". "s+h" is only the inaccurate English rendering of the Sanskrit palatal silibant, which has its own single sign in Indian writing systems. There is also no "h" or visarga at the end of the word. Furthermore, the diety later identified as 'Siva is actually referred to as Rudraa in the Vedas.
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Actually, there is no "h" in the word "shiva". "s+h" is only the inaccurate English rendering of the Sanskrit palatal silibant, which has its own single sign in Indian writing systems. There is also no "h" or visarga at the end of the word. Furthermore, the diety later identified as 'Siva is actually referred to as Rudraa in the Vedas.
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Didn't see anything there about the spelling issue, or the fact that 'Siva is a comparatively late addition to the Hindu pantheon, unknown in Vedic times.

Also, I just looked up the Hebrew alphabet and found that, like Devanagari, it has 3 seperate characters for the palatal, retroflex, and dental silibants ('seen, .sadeh, and samek, respectively). So it's impossible that they would have confused the palatal silibant in "Shiva" for a combination of "s" and "h". It seems to me that your theory is both linguistically and historically improbable.
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It seems to me that your theory is both linguistically and historically improbable.
Correct.

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It means "I am what I am". This is proof that Popeye is God.
(Fr Andrew): Of course the proper Hebrew rendering would include the ayin...i.e., "I yam what I yam!"
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(Fr Andrew): Of course the proper Hebrew rendering would include the ayin...i.e., "I yam what I yam!"
Perhaps this is proof that the original gods were created created by agrarian societies, and were vegetation gods, as "yam" is a kind of potato?

This has come down to us today in children's tales as the worship of that heathen idol, El'Yam, otherwise known as "Mr Potato Head". ..
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