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Old 04-24-2003, 12:49 PM   #1
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Ok, this is strange. I'm reading this novel "The Da Vinci Code" which contains lots of cryptic assertions about Christianity, and there is a paragraph which puzzles me:

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The Jewish tetragammaton YHWH -- the sacred name of God -- is in fact derived from Jehovah, an androgynous physical union between the masculine Jah and the pre-Hebraic name for Eve, Havah.
I thought that YHWH was an acronym of Hebrew words roughly translating to "I am that is." And I assumed Jehovah was some sort of Latinization of YHWH.

Is this writer off his rocker or am I?
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Ok, this is strange. I'm reading this novel "The Da Vinci Code" which contains lots of cryptic assertions about Christianity, and there is a paragraph which puzzles me:



I thought that YHWH was an acronym of Hebrew words roughly translating to "I am that is." And I assumed Jehovah was some sort of Latinization of YHWH.

Is this writer off his rocker or am I?

Yea I think you are right. Hmmm, can it be that you can't believe everything you read outside the Bible? Some book other than the Bible is unreliable? Naaaaaaaaaaa!


sounds like instead of writting that book, the author should have gotten himself a message board.
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In Exodus 3:14 the words ehyeh asher ehyeh appear, employing the word ehyeh, which is the first person singular of qal future tense of the verb 'to be.'

It is often translated 'I am who I am," but it is probably more correct to say "I will be who I will be."

English versions of the OT usually render this Hebrew name as "the LORD," following the practice of the NT, as well as those Jews of the 'inter-testamental' period. The Jews thought the name YHWH too holy to pronounce, so they substituted the word 'adonay ("my Lord"). Interestingly, the vowel signs for 'adonay were later added to the Hebrew consonants YHWH (producing "Yahweh") as a pronunciation reminder, and this hybrid form was rendered "Jehovah" in Wm. Tyndale's English translation (c. 1530).

As an aside, note that this same use of LORD is applied to the person Jesus by Saint Paul (Rom. 10:13, citing Joel 2:32).

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Hmmm, can it be that you can't believe everything you read outside the Bible? Some book other than the Bible is unreliable? Naaaaaaaaaaa!
Careful there, you're blowin' my mind...
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I thought that YHWH was an acronym of Hebrew words roughly translating to "I am that is.
It means "I am what I am". This is proof that Popeye is God.
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gosh darn you butters! i was going to post that myself, then I saw you already beat me to it.


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I read somewhere (sorry, can't remember where just now) about an Egyptian god with the same name, called Nuk Pu Nuk, who was apparently the prototype for the Israelite God. Anyone ever come across this? I'd like to know more about it if any of you can tell me anything more.
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I thought that YHWH was an acronym of Hebrew words roughly translating to "I am that is." And I assumed Jehovah was some sort of Latinization of YHWH.
YHWH means I (Y) am the Life (HWH).

It is the Jewish god of physical life taken from the Indian vedic god Shiva(sHiWaH).

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YHWH means I (Y) am the Life (HWH).

It is the Jewish god of physical life taken from the Indian vedic god Shiva(sHiWaH).

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No, sorry. The name of the Indian vedic god Shiva(sHiWaH) is taken from the Hebrew YHWH (meaning "I am").
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The name of the Indian vedic god Shiva(sHiWaH) is taken from the Hebrew YHWH (meaning "I am").
AFAIK the spirtual understanding of nature as the trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva - which are the three gods of 'creation', 'preserving, and 'distortion/recreation', described in the Sanskrit Vedas - has moved from the Indus valley to Mesopotamia as well to Arabia prior to 2200 BCE. Much of the laws of Manu doormann.org/manuslaw.txt and much of the astrologic culture on moon (Passover) was taken with to Mesopotamia and is taken from the Semite Hammurabi doormann.org/hammur.htm in his law code as well to the commandments of Moses in the Torah. As the Torah reports ABrahm and his named 'sister' Sara comes from other religions and Sara_svati is a goddess in the Vedas as well as Brahm and was the wife ans sister of Shiva. doormann.org/the0.htm. Shiva is the live giver as well as the Hebrew 'chavvah':

- chavah khaw-vah' chavvah khav-vaw' "life-giver, life, living"

- hava' haw-vaw' or havah {haw-vaw'} {HWH} "to breathe, to be (in the sense of existence)"

-yahweh, “he brings into existence”

The Vedic culture also was known prior to Muhammad in Arabia and Mecca and has be continued in Islam until today. doormann.org/the4.htm.

One of the gods ('Elohim' plural) of Judaism is the god of physical life YaHWeH. 'aDAM' is the RED blood of life and 'chavvah' is the life giver. This god in Judaism is not a god of spirit; this is the God 'El' as it is known from 'IsraEL', 'he who wrestle with god'.

I never have heard, that the 6000 years old vedic religion with it's God trinity containing Shiva, is of Judaism origin.

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