philechat

as for your opinion on my reply...

Stormy

My life is far from wasted.

That is but another false belief some Atheist have about Christians.

If we walk through this time that we have been given, and bring love to others, than it is far from a waste.


I am not wasting my life, and I trust that you are not either.

beth

I did not speak on both sides of my mouth. What the hell is wrong with this equation: a child's parent isn't at church; the pastor's wife knows mother is atheist, but tries really, really hard to get kids to push for baptism? Also, I hate the freaking beach.

Well, if it's one extra bath, why do it at all? I mean, I saw baptism as something sacred... seems you're talking from both sides of your mouth...

Really? Maybe brainwashing has more to do with it...

Shame their reasoning didn't rub off on you, but have no fear, just last year I sounded much like you when I posted on other boards.

Actually, I wasn't being self-gratuitous... I was stating a fact. I help out a heluva lot more in my community than most of the Christians around me. As far as my statement goes, I have been through hell over my deconversion, being accused of all sorts of things. It doesn't help that when I hear children ask what an atheist is, the parents say "an evil person who hates god and will go to hell, etc..."

Stormy

oops..

philechat

If I were pushing for any beliefs, it would be religious pluralism. I personally admire the ancient Greek Pagans and the East Asian syncretism a lot, and think they would be the religions that can cause the best interfaith tolerance. In East Asia people not only respects the others' religious beliefs they acknowledge that there exists wisdom in most religions existed. Atheism is tolerated and respected as any other religions, and different members in a family can practice different religions without much conflicts. Interfaith marriage is the norm rather then exception among the Taiwanese.

Stormy

[QUOTE]Originally posted by blondegoddess
[B] Shame their reasoning didn't rub off on you, but have no fear, just last year I sounded much like you when I posted on other boards.
QUOTE]

I am sorry that you have lost your faith. I think sometimes that can happen, when you surround yourself with unbelievers. But for whatever reason God has reinforced my Faith with factual evidence of his existence. I am sealed in the knowledge of God.

I ask only that you understand that man is far from being all knowing... and that you allow your children the full opportunity of finding God.

I am sure the beach is beautiful. I pray that you will be able to take your mind off yourself and spend the day allowing your children to do, as they desire.

beth

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stormy
[B] Well, I think you are wrong here. I was surrounded by(and still am) by Christians. Also, Helen is a Christian and posts in SL&S. Why? Because she doesn't post self-righteous BS.

Knowing God made me suicidal, babe. As an atheist, I am more mentally fit than when I was a Christian. Why would I want to shove religion down my children's throat and make them sick, too?

It is beautiful, but I get migranes and vomit all over the place from the heat of the beach. Do you think I should have to endure that for the sake of some cultic, worthless bath? Besides, THEY ARE TOO YOUNG!!!!!
My husband saw that, too. Maybe you should quit giving advice because your fundimentalism is showing through.

K

Stormy:

Whoa. Slow down there. I have never ever posted a single message in a Christian forum. I have never even posted a message regarding the existence or non-existence of God in a neutral forum. In fact, the only place I've ever posted anything regarding the existence or non-existence of God is here, an ATHEIST forum.

Now, you come here to an ATHEIST forum spouting your Christian nonsense, and you have the nerve to say, "it appears that you have an earnest desire to spread your message and thus clear the world of faith in God." That's not the pot calling the kettle black. It's more like the pot calling the silverware black.

If a Christian is here at an ATHEIST website, I assume it is because the Christian is interested in what atheists believe. I guess that doesn't hold for Christians like yourself who appear to be here only "trying to influence the minds of others with false tales."

Possibly - but it is your fabrication, not mine. I never claimed that motto.

Fortunately, you provided me with a quote that I think applies fairly well here.

"But I do think, that sometimes a person needs to take a closer look within.

Many times the traits that we fault others for, are also running rapid in ourselves. "

GunnerJ

Agreed.

I disagree. My position is valid by its logic. I need no one else's support to see the baseless nature of theism.

First off, your "reasons," even if true, do not show this. At best, they show that people would like more people to agree with them. It does not necessarily mean that they try to fulfil this desire.

Secondly, because your reasoning is invalid, the only way to show that "atheists" want to make other people disbelieve is through the evidence of action. If you cannot show this, you have nothing.

Finally, it is possible that some atheists do want to make people disbelieve. But you cannot take a simple lack of belief in a certain thing and turn it into a unifying cause. Very few, if any, want to promote disbelief in god(s) simply by virtue of disbelieving in god(s). Atheism is not a religion. It is a negative position with respect to one issue. It is not somehting people prosletyze for.

No, I agree with BG. I think you had your position shot down, and now you're trying to backpeddle. But if what you say is true, then you are trolling. This is againt the Forum rules. Please do not waste my, and other posters', time with spurious dialouge in the furture.

pz

Oh, boy. We have a whole forum for that: Existence of God(s). Perhaps you can stop in there and explain exactly what this "evidence" might be.

Christians often claim to have "evidence", which subsequently turns out to be nothing but more of their subjective interpretation of superstitions, so count me skeptical.