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Old 04-16-2003, 04:25 PM   #1
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According to an article in the San Francisco Chronicle, Martin Rees says, in his new book Our Final Hour, that science is so dangerous that specific areas of research should be restricted.

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No decision to go ahead with an experiment with a concievable 'Doomsday downside' should be made unless the general public (or a representative group of them) is satisfied that the risk is below what they collectively regard as an acceptable threshold. It isn't good enough to make a slapdash estimate of even the tiniest risk of destroying the world.
Considering the gross scientific illiteracy of the "general public", I can see bad times ahead for the scientific community.
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Clearly, this guy does not realize that a "doomsday event" has already happened - the entire planet has been infested with utter morons.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Clearly, this guy does not realize that a "doomsday event" has already happened - the entire planet has been infested with utter morons.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
That was pretty good.
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Martin Rees is British. Maybe their general science education is a lot better than what we suffer through here in the US.

(Ouch. I think I just strained something.)
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Old 04-17-2003, 01:38 PM   #5
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Wonderful, have the scientifically illiterate dictate what scientitsts may or may not study.

Reminds me of how a politician here in Canada commented that scientists are not qualified to make ethical decisions (supposedly only politicians are) - he was talking about cloning technology.
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Can somebody stop this planet, I wanna get the hell off!
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Can somebody stop this planet, I wanna get the hell off!
Better yet, let's get those dangerous scientists to build us some dangerous spaceships. Those who don't want to take the risk can stay home...
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Old 04-17-2003, 01:58 PM   #7
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I rather agree with him. Science is incredibly dangerous -- it's probably the second most dangerous activity humans do.

First place goes to not doing science.
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He’s probably right, considering where the funding for most science comes from, DoD and corporations that want huge returns on their investment. Politicians and Industrialists are the last people on Earth I would trust with anything. Once the $ are at stake no one is going to listen to the poor scientist who sent out a memo warning about this or that. (space shuttle hearings anyone?)
As Oppenheimer said after completing the Bomb “I have become death, the destroyer of worlds”
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It's a little late to stop all reseach projects with a chance of destroying the world. Two words: Manhatten Project.

I do think that some reearch should never be done of have been doe (like the Manhatten Project) but im mostly talking about thing related to warfare. cloning is unlike to destroy as is stem cell research. Besides, how do you expect the American public (half of whom, according to a recent NSF survey, don't know that the Earth goes around the Sun and takes a year to do so) to make wise choices on such issues? What's really needed is for scientists to consider the moral implications of their research.
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Default Restrictions probably won't work

I figure the dangerous science will always get done by someone, whether sanctioned or not. Restricting things like cloning, etc.(not that cloning is dangerous), will just mean that whichever country does the restricting will be left behind the countries that don't restrict it.

Some kind of global enforcement method would have to be used to make sure the restrictions were obeyed, and I just don't see that happening soon.

Sorry, this was supposed to be in the "How Dangerous is Science" thread. OOPS!
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