Bebbo

I recently came across this paragraph on the "about" page at ARN:

"We focus on such controversial topics as genetic engineering, euthanasia, computer technology, environmental issues, creation/evolution, fetal tissue research, AIDS, and so on. Through our publications and product offers, we give you the infomation you need to orient yourself in today's scientific and technological world and make informed decisions."

Why would they say this when ARN is primarily about ID and knocking evolution? What a joke that anyone should go to ARN to orient themselves in "today's scientific and technological world and make informed decisions."

The other thing I've been wondering is why so many of these kind of organisations don't have names that reflect what they're really about. For example:

Access Research Network (ARN): ID advocacy and anti-evolution

Center for Science and Culture: ID advocacy and anti-evolution

National Association for Objectivity in Science (NAOS): anti-evolution

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Dene

hezekiah jones

The domain name arn.org, by the way, is registered to Dennis Wagner, the publisher of the ID "journal" Origins & Design.

The editorial board of Origins & Design is comprised of the following individuals: Paul A. Nelson, Bruce L. Gordon, William A. Dembski, Stephen C. Meyer, and John C. "Jonathan" Wells, all of whom, except for Gordon, are Discovery Institute Senior Fellows.

simian

I would suspect it is because Johnson considers himself the uber-clearinghouse for all anti-naturalism materials. He was one of the people that was an active HIV doesn't cause AIDS idiots in the early 90's. His bibliography covers it here .

In short, the ID group is not just anti-evolution, they pretty much fall along the line of "goddidit" for all questions. Not that this is what is publicly portrayed, but is fact, as near as I can tell.

Simian

edited because I am an idiot and said "causes AIDS" when I meant "doesn't cause AIDS". Can I be a discovery institute fellow now?

Bebbo

Funny you should mention that as I was looking up Johnson and his denial of HIV->AIDS on the web today. I didn't get a sense of why Johnson got involved in that issue, although he's maybe changed his mind now - I couldn't find any recent references to it.

Still, I guess that with friends like Johnson the ID movement doesn't need enemies!!

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Dene

DNAunion

DNAunion: What is Infidels about?

I recently came across this statement on Infidels main page.

DNAunion: This site is dedicacted to the pursuit of tolerance? Could have fooled me.

Principia

Johnson's affiliation with the Duesberg AIDS nuts is great material for scrutinizing Johnson and his motivations, especially in the court of public opinion. Another IDiot put up this site: http://members.iinet.net.au/~sejones/pjurls.html It is by far the most comprehensive online resource to Johnson's material that I have seen, aside from the ARN Wedge Updates of course.

Doubting Didymus

How does this relate to the topic? I hope your purpose is something other than pure spite. If not, you are in the wrong forum. Head up to the complaints forum with the topic "IIDB fails in its stated goal of promoting tolerance", where you will be politely asked to back up your allegation.

capnkirk

Looks like the Radical Fundamentalist Right has taken a page out of the Political Leftists' handbook! Anyone recall all the ideologically high-minded names that the Communist Party was fond of using to mask their activist propaganda organizations with a veil of altruistic legitimacy? I guess when you don't want people to know what your message really is, you have the need to camoflauge it...and when you're convinced that the end justifies the means, you also have the willingness.