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Proctors_Gambit · 08-11-2003, 08:15 PM

Or here.
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp

When our beloved EAP is so shot down by a student in his class that he has to quit his job as a science professor.

And you have to include the part where after the EAP is chased out of the class, the student spends hours witnessing to the rest of the lecture theatre and they all become Christians.
Hurrah!

-Gambit

Doctor X · 08-11-2003, 10:12 PM

Yet it is just merely continuing the tradition of Junior being asked a question by that Pesky Band 'o Wandering Jews in which he does not actually answer the question, but they fall into silence.

--J.D.

mark9950 · 08-11-2003, 10:13 PM

Isa 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Doctor X · 08-11-2003, 10:16 PM

. . . yeah but they will probably tell you you took it out of context . . . or you need to look at the "spirit" of the passage. . . .

. . . then they will pray for you. . . .

--J.D.

Queen of Swords · 08-11-2003, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by Vicar Philip
First of all, I just love how the Evil Atheist Professor is portrayed immediately as "degrading and mocking" the Christian faith.

In stories like these, Christians "challenge" and "stand strong for their faith"; people of other persuasions "ridicule" and "mock".

Quantum Ninja · 08-11-2003, 11:07 PM

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Do I hear an AMEN!!

Do I hear a pile of pointless, self-refuting tripe?

Roland98 · 08-13-2003, 06:43 AM

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Originally posted by Proctors_Gambit
Or here.
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp

When our beloved EAP is so shot down by a student in his class that he has to quit his job as a science professor.

And you have to include the part where after the EAP is chased out of the class, the student spends hours witnessing to the rest of the lecture theatre and they all become Christians.
Hurrah!

-Gambit

Oh dear IPU...

I love all the www.drdino.com references in there.

Chick and Hovind deserve each other.

Milton · 08-13-2003, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by Vicar Philip
Here's a little story I figured my fellow Infidels would enjoy tearing apart:First of all, I just love how the Evil Atheist Professor is portrayed immediately as "degrading and mocking" the Christian faith. Could they stereotype us a little more? Thank you.

You mean to say that atheist don't act this way? I don't believe all do, but the majority at these boards do.

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Next, the EAP is gloating over his obvious victory in smiting the witless Christians yet another year. I hope there aren't really any atheist professors out there that are such assholes. I would guess most of us are remarkably tolerant of other people's faith, since 99% of others believe in some fable or other.

Tolerant? Maybe because you can't do anything about it... but if you had the power to erradicate religion, you wouldn't think it twice.

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Let's see. Next, the bright Christian student points out that man created the term for "cold." And just what proof does the astute young man have that the term "god" wasn't created by man to comfort those seeking assistance and reassurance that there really is more to life than cold, hard reality? Hmmmmm?

Stick to the story. The question was if God created everything, then He created evil too. Not whether or not God existed.

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I'll just skip to the end. The Young Christian Student finally defines Evil as the "Absence of god." Now wait a damn minute. Aren't children drilled in Sunday school with the notion that god and Jesus are everywhere?? That he resides in every component of his Creation? That would seem to go against the Christian student's claim about the "absence of god."

There are different levels of description. We use symbolic language in reference to God. In visions, God is described as having some form likened to that of man--as described in Daniel. There is the description where God is everywhere, except in the presence of evil or vice versa. And then there is also the overall belief that nothing, not good nor evil, exists outside of God.

And what the person was trying to say by 'absence of God' is the lack of obedience to God.

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And why did the Professor have nothing to say? He apparently isn't a very good atheist. Hell, I could have said something, let alone the verbal assault that would have been conjured up by some of my more intellectual brethren who reside here at IIDB.

You sure could have said. But just because you can say anything, it doesn't mean it would be a valid comeback.

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Once again, a piss poor portrayal of Atheists by the Almighty Christians. Amen indeed.

Just so you don't get the idea that I believe this story, know that I don't.

Queen of Swords · 08-13-2003, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by Milton
but if you had the power to erradicate religion, you wouldn't think it twice.

All religions are not the same. Would I eradicate a religion that mandated the beating of children, the subjugation of women and the stoning of gay people? You bet. Would I eradicate a religion that preached the equality of all people and tolerance towards other ways of life? No, I wouldn't.

Amaranth · 08-13-2003, 02:39 PM

Just so this is perfectly clear, cold and dark are decidely things. The definition of thing is:

An entity, an idea, or a quality perceived, known, or thought to have its own existence.

At the very least, the both exist as idea's, but honestly, is there any real way to debate that they are not existant qualities of a lack of heat/light?

Amaranth

08-11-2003, 10:13 PM	#13
mark9950 Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: midwest usa Posts: 1,203	God did create evil Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

08-11-2003, 10:49 PM	#15
Queen of Swords Contributor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada. Finally. Posts: 10,155	Re: Yet Another Christian E-mail Originally posted by Vicar Philip First of all, I just love how the Evil Atheist Professor is portrayed immediately as "degrading and mocking" the Christian faith. In stories like these, Christians "challenge" and "stand strong for their faith"; people of other persuasions "ridicule" and "mock".

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08-11-2003, 08:15 PM	#11
Proctors_Gambit Regular Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 372	Or here. http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0055/0055_01.asp When our beloved EAP is so shot down by a student in his class that he has to quit his job as a science professor. And you have to include the part where after the EAP is chased out of the class, the student spends hours witnessing to the rest of the lecture theatre and they all become Christians. Hurrah! -Gambit

08-11-2003, 10:12 PM	#12
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	Yet it is just merely continuing the tradition of Junior being asked a question by that Pesky Band 'o Wandering Jews in which he does not actually answer the question, but they fall into silence. --J.D.

08-11-2003, 10:16 PM	#14
Doctor X Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: USA Posts: 3,794	. . . yeah but they will probably tell you you took it out of context . . . or you need to look at the "spirit" of the passage. . . . . . . then they will pray for you. . . . --J.D.

08-13-2003, 09:11 AM	#19
Queen of Swords Contributor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada. Finally. Posts: 10,155	Originally posted by Milton but if you had the power to erradicate religion, you wouldn't think it twice. All religions are not the same. Would I eradicate a religion that mandated the beating of children, the subjugation of women and the stoning of gay people? You bet. Would I eradicate a religion that preached the equality of all people and tolerance towards other ways of life? No, I wouldn't.

08-13-2003, 02:39 PM	#20
Amaranth Regular Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 279	Just so this is perfectly clear, cold and dark are decidely things. The definition of thing is: An entity, an idea, or a quality perceived, known, or thought to have its own existence. At the very least, the both exist as idea's, but honestly, is there any real way to debate that they are not existant qualities of a lack of heat/light? Amaranth

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