Boro Nut

Not in Scotland its not.

Boro Nut

Actually John that's quite brilliant. I'm just annoyed that I didn't think it through myself.

Boro Nut

hinduwoman

then let us have a god who really hates people who believe without proof and has a lovely heaven for atheists. The whole purpose of his creation was to produce as many atheists as possible. As our souls lounge in bliss we will enjoy the believers being tortured.

virgio

Here is a more appropriate wager - All, arguably, religions reward good behaviour based on a moral framework that is more or less similar. Thus, one just has to be 'good' for the 'safest bet'.

virgio

Pomp

virgio,

Here is a more appropriate wager - All, arguably, religions reward good behaviour based on a moral framework that is more or less similar. Thus, one just has to be 'good' for the 'safest bet'.

Not quite. Many mainsream Protestant religions, for example, are "faith" based (as opposed to "works" based religions, such as Roman Catholicism) and, as such, don't purport to reward behavior of any type but, rather, belief in their dogma.

More importantly, this is obviously a humorous thread...

virgio

"Not quite. Many mainsream Protestant religions, for example, are "faith" based (as opposed to "works" based religions, such as Roman Catholicism) and, as such, don't purport to reward behavior of any type but, rather, belief in their dogma."

Protestantism isn't a religion, it's a denomination. Which is why I said arguably. Arguably, Christianity supports salvation through works.

More importantly, this is obviously a humorous thread

-- Yes, I find a lot of what people say on here to be laughable. Point?

virgio

Pomp

virgio,

Protestantism isn't a religion, it's a denomination.

If you want to argue the difference between a denomination and a religion, be my guest.

Which is why I said arguably. Arguably, Christianity supports salvation through works.

But some Christians "denominations" flatly deny the concept of salvation through works, so the point is not arguable at all.

Yes, I find a lot of what people say on here to be laughable. Point?

If you want to talk all serious-like, don't do it in what is clearly a joke thread!

tronvillain

Boro Nut, the only widely used spellings are "Ockham" and "Occam."

virgio

A denomination of a religion shares basic beliefs with other denominations of that religion.

"But some Christians "denominations" flatly deny the concept of salvation through works, so the point is not arguable at all."

-- Eheh. So if some people from group X disagree, the point is not arguable? That doesn't make sense. There's a biblical argument to be made, so yes, the point is arguable.

virgio

Pomp

virgio,

Eheh. So if some people from group X disagree, the point is not arguable?

If some versions of ideology A hold belief B while other versions hold belief B' then, no, it is not arguable that belief B can be considered a feature of ideology A.

Faith-based "denominations" do not, by definition, promise rewards based on behavior of any sort. Therefore, your statement that all religions promise rewards based on similar behavioral standards is false. This is not an arguable point.