mark9950

I have asked religionists and many pastors what certain verses mean,they would try to explain it away changing the subject instead of realizing the bible is very wierd and full of contradictions that does not make sense.

I usually would ask if it does not mean what it says than what does it mean.That is when they would criticize me or excommunicate me from the church instead of giving me an answer.

The sad truth is that these people really want to believe in a GOD the way the bible was written,they really do.They do not want anyone to ask questions they just want you to go along like one would join a cult.

The bible does not explain the dinosaurs which we have proof that they did live at one time.

I really wander if GOD ever stepped in dinosaur poop.

yguy

Such eagerness to believe lies makes me wonder how many bridges you own. God was telling them not to be a bunch of slobs, just as your parents told you to keep your room clean. You probably also believe that God killed guys because they urinated on walls, and that Job really DID wash his steps with butter.

Unbeliever

"supposedly" is the operative word here. Not a single person has the slightest idea who wrote any of the gospels. And you can do all the verbal acrobatics you like, you can't demonstrate the inerrency of the Bible. Too many of those contradictions are real contradictions, not just "difficulties", or "problems".

Magus55

Nah, they aren't contradictions, atheists just have the presupposition that the Bible is errant, so anything they don't understand about its context, will seem to be contradictory. And yes, part of it is true that the Holy Spirit guides us into understanding the Bible, which atheists lack. ( yes yes, blah blah you believe in no Holy Spirit so claim it has nothing to do with it, but lack of belief doesn't negate existence).


Mark, you still haven't provided any reason for why SAB is 100% accurate, and how you proved it. All you are saying is, this looks contradictory - the Bible is wrong and I refuse to actually study it!

Jinto

You know, the more I read your posts mark9950, the more I become convinced that you're not legit.

Consider the following:

You seem to believe that either the ToE is 100% correct or the bible is 100% correct, a position usually held by theists.

You can't seem to define what the ToE says, believeing it to be the "theory of dinosaur existance," as opposed to what it actually says.

You make stupid claims about the SAB being 100% accurate (it isn't)

Your writing style indicates that you have the equivalent of a third-grade education

You apparently don't realize that Islam IS just an amended version of Christianity

You apparently don't know the definition of proof

You relate obviously false stories of threatened excommunication for asking questions (I know that even the Jehova's witnesses don't do that, especially when even the most basic apologetics would resolve the doubts of someone with you limited education and intelligence)

You remind me of pudgyfarmer in your writing style - making bald and obviously stupid assertations and then not bothering to back them up when challenged.

And you really expect us to believe you?

Jinto

Actually, atheists (mark9950 excepted, although I think he's not telling us the truth) don't have the presupposition that it is false, they come to that conclusion because it is patently absurd. Sometimes, I wonder if theists' proclaimed "understanding" actually comes from the willingness to say "well, I know that's not what it said, but it's obviously what it meant."

You are absolutely right - that's why I'm having trouble believing he's legit, especially in a social environment that reviles atheism. Personally, I'm guessing that he's just some dumb kid who's trying to impress this bunch of smart folk by pretending to agree with them - essentially, a wannabe. And if you are reading this mark9950, take note: nobody likes a wannabe.

yguy

Smells to me like a fundie making himself into a pseudo-atheist patsy for propaganda purposes.

Vinnie

Try meriam and webster.

Vinnie

mark9950

Than what does it mean?

I could throw out this verse

Jesus quotes another scripture that doesn't exist in the canonized bible.

(John 7:38 NRSV) and let the one who believes in me drink. As the scripture has said, 'Out of the believer's heart shall flow rivers of living water.'"

(what scripture)

and this one

David and the "evil spirit from God"

(1 Sam 16:23 NRSV) And whenever the *evil spirit from God* came upon Saul, David took the lyre and played it with his hand, and Saul would be relieved and feel better, and the evil spirit would depart from him.

First of all where is the supposed scripture that jesus quoted from some source and what is the EVIL SPIRIT FROM GOD?

It sounds to me that the EVIL SPIRIT FROM GOD was a sickness or nausea not an evil spirit.

The list goes on and on just tell me if you want to see more,I will be glad to oblige.

Kosh

Maybe Haran has created another "atheist" account...