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Spaz · 03-06-2003, 01:58 PM

When I was a christian I was protestant, so I don't know a whole lot about catholicism, and some of the things such as the immaculate birth and purgatory weren't part of my sect of christianity, so what I'm wondering is what all did catholics make up? And how did they come about with those things?

oriecat · 03-06-2003, 02:08 PM

They made it all up.

There were catholics long before there were protestants. It's not that they made up extra stuff, it's that the pros just didn't take it all with them.

Spaz · 03-06-2003, 02:09 PM

I realize that, but well I guess a better question would be where in the bible does it refer to those things?

WWSD · 03-06-2003, 02:36 PM

I understand what you are asking Spaz because I asked that very question myself at one point.

I tried looking for answers in the Catholic Encyclopedia but found no answers. There appears to be nothing in the bible that specifically states that one should fast for lent or give up sex or whatnot.

Maybe a catholic will come along and enlighten us (or confuse us if it turns out to be Amos).

By the way, Amos, if you do turn up, how's the weather up there?

Gemma Therese · 03-06-2003, 03:34 PM

The Biblical reference for Lent is the 40 days Jesus spent fasting in the desert.

Gemma Therese

WWSD · 03-06-2003, 03:36 PM

gemma
Yes, indeed it is. But where does scripture mandate that one fast for forty days?

I am also curious as to where scripture mandates the ritual of putting palm ashes on one's forehead.

Gemma Therese · 03-06-2003, 03:40 PM

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gemma
Yes, indeed it is. But where does scripture mandate that one fast for forty days?

I am also curious as to where scripture mandates the ritual of putting palm ashes on one's forehead.

I am a Catholic, not a Protestant. I do not need justification for all my religious practices in Scripture.

Gemma Therese

themistocles · 03-06-2003, 03:45 PM

Exceedingly difficult and oppressive schools. Although I think that's a good thing, because really what the youth of America need is real oppression, in my opinion.

WWSD · 03-06-2003, 03:47 PM

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Originally posted by Gemma Therese
I am a Catholic, not a Protestant. I do not need justification for all my religious practices in Scripture.

Gemma Therese

I think you are missing the point.

The question is: where did all these traditions come from? If they aren't scripturally based, then who started them and why?

Gemma Therese · 03-06-2003, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by WWSD
I think you are missing the point.

The question is: where did all these traditions come from? If they aren't scripturally based, then who started them and why?

I am guessing most of them started in the Middle Ages, but I don't know for sure.

Putting ashes on one's forehead serves as a reminder of the brevity of life.

The self-denial of Lent is used as a means to grow closer to God.

Gemma Therese

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Spaz Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 6th Circle of Hell Posts: 1,093	What did the Catholics make up? When I was a christian I was protestant, so I don't know a whole lot about catholicism, and some of the things such as the immaculate birth and purgatory weren't part of my sect of christianity, so what I'm wondering is what all did catholics make up? And how did they come about with those things?

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03-06-2003, 02:08 PM	#2
oriecat Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Portland OR USA Posts: 1,098	They made it all up. There were catholics long before there were protestants. It's not that they made up extra stuff, it's that the pros just didn't take it all with them.

03-06-2003, 02:09 PM	#3
Spaz Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 6th Circle of Hell Posts: 1,093	I realize that, but well I guess a better question would be where in the bible does it refer to those things?

03-06-2003, 02:36 PM	#4
WWSD Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Albucrazy, New Mexico Posts: 1,425	I understand what you are asking Spaz because I asked that very question myself at one point. I tried looking for answers in the Catholic Encyclopedia but found no answers. There appears to be nothing in the bible that specifically states that one should fast for lent or give up sex or whatnot. Maybe a catholic will come along and enlighten us (or confuse us if it turns out to be Amos). By the way, Amos, if you do turn up, how's the weather up there?

03-06-2003, 03:34 PM	#5
Gemma Therese Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: new york Posts: 608	The Biblical reference for Lent is the 40 days Jesus spent fasting in the desert. Gemma Therese

03-06-2003, 03:36 PM	#6
WWSD Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Albucrazy, New Mexico Posts: 1,425	gemma Yes, indeed it is. But where does scripture mandate that one fast for forty days? I am also curious as to where scripture mandates the ritual of putting palm ashes on one's forehead.

03-06-2003, 03:45 PM	#8
themistocles Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: las vegas, nevada Posts: 670	Exceedingly difficult and oppressive schools. Although I think that's a good thing, because really what the youth of America need is real oppression, in my opinion.

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