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Old 05-11-2003, 09:17 AM   #1
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Lightbulb “Knowledger” - new term?

Theists probably feel that they were first because of the terms.

It sounds like theism and theist were first and atheism and atheist second: “theist” = “believer”, “atheist” = “non-believer”.

It’s not that simple.

There is a difference between believe and knowledge. There is a term “believer”, but there is no term “knowledger”.

If we had such term knowledger will be able to say: It’s not like I simply don’t believe in god or religion. I know at least basics of science and logic and this allows me to say:

“I KNOW there is no god”.

So, let’s use the term “knowledger” as the opposite term to “believer” or “theist”. The definition might be the following:

Knowledger – a person who:
- is aware of the truth or factuality of;
- is convinced or certain of.

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Old 05-11-2003, 12:07 PM   #2
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How would you keep theists from calling themselves "knowledgers"? You seem to want "knowledger" to refer only to people who (so you say) know there are no gods, but the fact is that theism and atheism both contain both kinds--people who claim to know, and people who believe but don't call their belief knowledge. Since knowledge is true by definition, the theist and the atheist could never agree about whether someone is a knowledger.

But at least that term would distinguish between the atheists who, like you, claim to know that theism is false, and those who don't.
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