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Old 07-06-2003, 12:20 AM   #1
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Note: all info in this post is based of very, very old teachings I learned in sunday school.

Okay, so, God makes Adam and Eve. And then they have kids and stuff and blah blah. You know.

Here's my questions: Who taught them a language? Was it God? If so, wouldn't it be a perfect language that is still widely used? Who taught them how to build houses and fertilize crops or domesticate animals? These are things that non-fundies believe took humans thousands of years to discover and utilize. If God gave them all THAT info immediately, why stop there? Why not teach them medicine and sanitation and whatnot?

I'm sure other similar questions can be derived from this thought process.
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I think the usual reply you'd get is since this was the Garden of Eden, there was no need for such things. Heck they were naked. Why build shelter if there's nothing to harm you?
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I was actually referring to post-garden times. They didn't even live there one whole lifetime, right?
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There was one language from the beginning, but God mixed up the languages in the Tower of Babel, which is where other languages came from.

No clue whether God taught them language, or just created Adam and Eve with full knowledge of language - probably full knowledge since they were a perfect creation.
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There was one language from the beginning, but God mixed up the languages in the Tower of Babel, which is where other languages came from.

No clue whether God taught them language, or just created Adam and Eve with full knowledge of language - probably full knowledge since they were a perfect creation.
Two things:

One, if they were perfect, why did they eat the apple?

Two, any response to my other questions?
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There was one language from the beginning, but God mixed up the languages in the Tower of Babel, which is where other languages came from.

No clue whether God taught them language, or just created Adam and Eve with full knowledge of language - probably full knowledge since they were a perfect creation.
So would it be natural to follow that the most ancient language would be that of the most ancient people, the Sumerians, and that this form of information should stem from their culture?

Also, if we were to assume that the original language story is correct, it should be more ancient than cuneiform, right? What is this language?
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No clue whether God taught them language, or just created Adam and Eve with full knowledge of language - probably full knowledge since they were a perfect creation.
Once AGAIN, Magus demonstrates the amount to which Christians read their own bible - not much. A&E did not know they were naked until they ate of the tree of knowledge of G&E, so they were not created with full knowledge of didly-squat.
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Who taught them a language? Was it God?
Not addressed in the bible. I presume that they were given knowledge of language at the time of creation.

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If so, wouldn't it be a perfect language that is still widely used?
Not necessarily. The original language could have been lost in Tower of Babel episode.

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Who taught them how to build houses and fertilize crops or domesticate animals? These are things that non-fundies believe took humans thousands of years to discover and utilize. If God gave them all THAT info immediately, why stop there? Why not teach them medicine and sanitation and whatnot?
Presumably God gave them the knowledge when they were banished from the garden, or it may have been part of what they gained from eating the forbidden fruit. I would also assume they had basic sanitation and medical knowledge. Many civilizations lose knowledge. One look at the pyramids of ancient Egypt illustrates that. That could easily have happened here as well.

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One, if they were perfect, why did they eat the apple?
Free will. Deceitful lies of the devil.

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So would it be natural to follow that the most ancient language would be that of the most ancient people, the Sumerians, and that this form of information should stem from their culture?
The most ancient of known languages not necessarily the most ancient of languages. Not all of ancient history is known. So much has been lost. There is an ancient Egyptian papyrus related to medical knowledge that is lost to us, although we have some references to it. Sigh. I think about that often as I am interested in both medicine and ancient Egyptian culture. Think of more modern times. There are many Roman and Greek texts that are missing or incomplete that we know of. How much more is lost that we don’t know about.

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Also, if we were to assume that the original language story is correct, it should be more ancient than cuneiform, right? What is this language?
I have no clue. Languages die out frequently as cultures change or die out. Maybe the original language disappeared when the Tower of Babel happened.


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Once AGAIN, Magus demonstrates the amount to which Christians read their own bible - not much. A&E did not know they were naked until they ate of the tree of knowledge of G&E, so they were not created with full knowledge of didly-squat.
Typical reading out of context. Magus said full knowledge of language, not full knowledge of everything.
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Why not create them with full knowledge of everything? That way, they'd've known disobeying God was bad (something they couldn't possibly have known without disobeying God in the first place).

That's one thing I've never understood... why didn't God want humans to know the difference between Good and Evil. If he was All Good in the first place, he'd WANT humans to know his true nature... the only reason he'd want to conceal the difference between Good and Evil is if he himself was evil, and didn't want humans to know. Hmm.
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