Clarice

While I did find it an interesting picture, and this particular image didn't bother me, I do agree that some forewarning is called for (indeed, only polite) when linking to an image of someone's insides laying on their abdomen.

Edit: Sabine, you are either amazingly insensitive and ignorant, not to realize that photos of any surgery, no matter how beneficial, will be highly disturbing to some, or your post above was entirely disingenuous.

livius drusus

You believe many improbable things. I did not click on the bloody swollen fetus with the massive open wound for more detail, no. What I saw was more than sufficient to nauseate me. If you choose to avoid me because of your own misperception of my motives, so be it. I won't bother questioning yours. If you say you posted it to share the beauty, then I will take that as a given. Does this mean that it didn't even occur to you that some people might find it disturbing and that therefore you should make some mention of what exactly this "great picture" was? I was thinking the converse about you. Funny you think that bawdy, entirely clothed sex warrants a warning but an explicit shot of a deformed fetus being operated on in utero couldn't possibly be disturbing enough to require one. Besides, you didn't just neglect to alert to the potentially disquieting nature of the link, you used a happy smiley icon, titled and imbued the op with an ambiguous positivity and then wished us a lovely day.

Corona688

Interesting picture, but the article became substantially less interesting when it began to preach.

Infinity Lover

I wouldn't be a bit surprised, if those people who'd complain about the graphic nature of the in-operation image, wouldn't think twice about watching a bloody horrorflick while gobbling down buttered popcorn like it's going out of style.

This thread might've been more suitable in science and skeptisism, (or rather put, it would do the subject more justice) but that's about as far as I'd take my sidenotes.

As far as "politicly sharged" goes. As pro-choice as one might be, abortion should never be a decision to be taken lightly. There's nothing political about that i.m.o. Or preaching for that matter.

If, as an atheist, you don't like having everything turned into something religious... just a hint... then don't.
The mom thanked people for prayers and support in a personal note, and that's as far as it went. Or in other words; lighten the hell up already.

Sabine Grant

Clarice... Livius is an individual who made a federal case out of some of us protesting the posting of cartoons with explicit sexual content without any previous warning in one of the Philosophy forums.The post was out of context and removed by the Administration to be placed back in the Freethinking Humor.
So I am neither insensitive or ignorant but rather aware of the consistant nags Livius has been taking at Amie.
I agree that adding the word " graphic " in the OP would prevent a person who is truly and genuinely impressed by surgery pictures to view it. Knowing Amie she will have no problem adding a warning.
And in my post I do mean that I am marveling at the progresses of science.

Sabine Grant

I agree that in Science and Skepticism more people who can actualy build an interesting debate covering medical and scientifical topics would relate to the article and the picture. Usualy I will only lurk in those upper forums as the level of education and knowledge displayed are way out of my league. But I do think that this picture would inspire some interesting and edifying comments in the upper forums.
I guess it is up to the moderator now......

livius drusus

No, I am simply not a fan of exposed internal organs. I doubt I am alone in this.
Assuming facts not in evidence. You don't know anything about the nature of my indignation. My reaction could be the result of anything from a dainty venality you would abhor to a horrifying childhood trauma you would drench in sympathetic oratory. Believe what you want about me, but this is a large community and there are bound to be people who would be disgusted with that kind of picture for reasons even you approve of. No, but I suspect it is at the root of your own immediate defense of it. Particularly considering your repeated advocacy of warnings and sometimes outright censorship in the name of other people's sensibilities. Your loaded self-congratulatory rhetoric aside, the picture was graphic and should have been labelled as such.

viscousmemories

I am so shocked by the path this thread has taken. Amie has attempted to trick everyone into reading a pro-life article under the guise of sharing a "great picture". livius was shocked and disgusted by having been so tricked, and spoke her mind. Amie accused livius of being "the queen of forum drama", and refused to admit her (IMO) obvious intentions.

Sabine used the opportunity to kill three birds with one stone: Supporting her friend and fellow theist Amie, attacking livius, her adversary from previous threads, and coming up with a ludicrous rationalization for her inability to defend her criticism of an "explicit" image in an entirely different thread.

livius responded with her usual calm and reasonable explanation for why she was upset, and throughout the thread Infinity Lover took the middle road in a completely transparent effort to defend Amie while not really taking a stance on the discussion of whether or not the picture should have been posted in the first place.

Well, needless to say I too am disgusted by this thread. And for what it's worth, I'd chop that little guy to pieces with a butter knife if the mother wished it done. I'm not easily swayed by the absurd argument "but look at how cute and fluffy and finger-squeezy it is." To me, that is no argument at all.

Loren Pechtel

One of the standard things in the PL handbag. Never mind that there's nothing that says that it was a concious act.

satanka

I find the story and the picture an example of the amazing advancements of medical science that brings a better quality of life. I think of the joy and happiness it brought to a family.