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Old 03-01-2003, 09:37 AM   #1
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Default Prophet Muhammad is the Kalki Avatar of Hinduism?!!!!

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Kalki Autar
By: Prof. Pundit Vaid Parkash
Reviewed by: Mir Abdul Majeed
Broadcasted on BICNews 8 December 1997

Pundit verifies Messenger was foretold
The Message, October 1997

*The Last Kalki Autar (Messenger) that the Veda has foretold and who is waited on by Hindus is the Prophet Muhammed ibn Abdullah (saw) *
A recently published book in Hindi has raised a lot of hue and cry all over India. In the event of the author being Muslim, he would have been jailed and a strict ban would have certainly been imposed on the printing and the publishing of the book. The author of this important research work "Kalki Autar" i.e. "guide and Prophet of whole universe" comes of a Bengali race and holds an important portfolio at Ilahabad University.

Pundit Vaid Parkash is a Brahman Hindu and a well known Sanskrit scholar and research worker. Pundit Vaid Parkash, after a great deal of toil and hard-work, presented the work to as many as eight great Pundits who are themselves very well known in the field of research in India, and are amongst the learned religious leaders.

Their Pundits, after thorough study of the book, have acknowledged this to be true and authentic research work. Important religious books of India mention the guide and prophet by the specific name of "Kalki Autar" it denotes the great man Muhammed (saw) who was born in Makkah. Hence, all Hindus where-ever they may be, should wait no longer for any other 'kalki autar' but to embrace Islam and follow in the footsteps of the last Messenger of Allah (swt) who was sent in the world about fourteen hundred years ago with a mission from Him and after accmplishing it has long ago departed this world.

As an argument to prove the authenticity of his research, Pundit Vaid Parkash quotes from the Veda, a sacred book among Hindus:

Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be the last Messenger / Prophet of Bhagwan (Allah) to guide the whole world. Afer quoting this reference the Pundit Parkash says that this comes true only in the case of Muhammed (saw).

According to a prophecy of Hinduism, 'kalki autar' will be born in an island and that is the Arab territory which is known as 'jazeeratul Arab'.

In the 'sacred' book of Hindus the father's name of 'kalki autar' is mentioned as 'Vishnu Bhagat' and his mother's name as 'somanib'. In sanskrit, 'vishnu' stands for Allah (swt) and the literal meaning of 'bhagat' is slave. 'Vishnu Bhagat' therefore, in the Arabic language will mean Allah's slave (Abdullah). 'Somanib' in Sanskrit means peace and tranquilty which in arabic is denoted by the word 'Amina'. Whereas the last Messenger Muhammed's (saw) father and mother's names were Abdullah and Amina respectively.

In the big books of Hindus, it is mentioned that 'kalki autar' will live on olive and dates and he will be true to his words and honest. In this regard Pundit Parkash writes, "This is true and established only in the case of Muhammed (saw)".

Veda mentions that 'kalki autar' will be born in the respected and noble dynasty of his land. And this is also true as regards Muhammed (saw) as he was born in the respected tribe of Quraish who enjoyed great respect and high place in Makkah.

'Kalki Autar' will be taught in the cave by Bhagwan through his own messenger. And it is very true in this matter. Muhammed (saw) was the only one person in Makkah who has taught by Allah's Messenger Gabriel in the cave of Hira.

It is written in the books which Hindus believe that Bhagwan will provide 'Kalki autar' with the fastest of a horse and with the help of which he will ride around the world and the seven skies/heavens. The riding on 'Buraq' and 'Meraj' by the Prophet Muhammed (saw) proves what?

It is also written in the Hindus' books that 'kalki autar' will be strengthened and heavily helped by Bhagwan. And we know this fact that Muhammed (saw) was aided and reinforced by Allah (swt) through His angels in the battle of Badr.

Hindus' books also mention that 'kalki autar' will be an expert in horse riding, arrow shooting, and swordsmanship. What Pundit Vaid Parkash comments in this regard is very important and worth attention and consideration. He writes that the age of horses, swords, and spears is long ago gone and now is the age of modern weapons like tanks, missiles, and guns, and therefore it will be unwise to wait for 'kalki autar' bearing sword and arrows or spears. In reality, the mention in our books of 'kalki autar' is clearly indicative of Muhammed (saw) who was given the heavenly book known as Al-Qur'an.
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So according to hindhus, who is Jesus?
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probably, Krishna. The "god" Krishna is based on an actual Prophet named Krisna that taught the Unity of G-d and was a Prophet sent to India. He then died and was deified by his followers. However, some sources say that Krisna is one of the many Prophets that came after Moses and before Christ. So its unclear whether Krishna is based on "Khrist"...but a lot of Hare Krishna's believe that Krishna is the "Khrist".
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sorry Vedas do not mention Kalki avatar. The whole avatar business came later than Vedas. So the learning of the "wellknown Sanskrit pundit" is suspect.

Kalki is not the last messenger of God. He is the incarnation of God, which is very different. What is more, his coming heralds the apocalypse. The world still exists, though no doubt to pagan races which Islam conquered it did seem like end of the world.

As for in modern days horses and swords no longer being used, my dear Rivers did you think this through? You are putting limitations on the power of allah If allah wanted, he can create a horse faster than a jet, and a sword that is like a Jedi lightsabre. since apparently he cannot, I guess Allah is not omnipotent after all.

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Hey river as far as your knowledge of hinduism goes, are the similarities presented below true as far as you can tell?


Jesus and Krishna were called both a God and the Son of God.
Both was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man.
Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.
His adoptive human father was a carpenter.
A spirit or ghost was their actual father.
Krishna and Jesus were of royal descent.
Both were visited at birth by wise men and shepherds, guided by a star.
Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna's parents stayed in Mathura.
Both Yeshua and Krishna withdrew to the wilderness as adults, and fasted.
Both were identified as "the seed of the woman bruising the serpent's head."
Jesus was called "the lion of the tribe of Judah." Krishna was called "the lion of the tribe of Saki."
Both claimed: "I am the Resurrection."
Both referred to themselves having existed before their birth on earth.
Both were "without sin."
Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine.
They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.
Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured "all manner of diseases."
Both cast out indwelling demons, and raised the dead.
Both selected disciples to spread his teachings.
Both were meek, and merciful. Both were criticized for associating with sinners.
Both encountered a Gentile woman at a well.
Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies.
Both descended into Hell, and were resurrected. Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven.
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The Vai.s.nava doctrine of avatars is found in the Purâ.nas, not the Vedas. It is unthinkable that any "Pundit" would make such a basic mistake; it's like a Sheikh confusing a hadith from Bukhari for an ayah from al-Baqara. This alone is reason enough to disregard this article.

Anyway, as Hinduwoman said, the Kalki Avatar is *not* a messenger of God, he is God himself coming down into the world to restore the Satya Yuga at the end of this Kâli Yuga. In that respect he is much more similar to the Second Coming of Christ than Muhammad - so if anything you should be encouraging Vai.s.navas to become Christian, not Muslim!

About the similarities between Jesus and K.r.s.na:

There are indeed a number of striking similarities in the mythology of K.r.s.na and Jesus, but I think they reflect more the existence of certain universal human mythological themes than actual borrowing. This page has a pretty complete selection of the K.r.s.na myths.

I must add that the way some of your questions are worded is very misleading, and prone to exagerate the similarities. Take for instance, "Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity." Superficially, the answer is yes, but this hides the fact that the Christian and Vai.s.nava concept of a Savior and Trinity are not really comparable.


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Humans are made in G-d's "form". The Divine names are embedded in every human, in varying degree. Prophet Muhammad is considered G-d's most "perfect" representative on earth because he embodies all the Divine names in Perfect Balance. So Muhammad is the spokesperson for G-d. Manifestation is too strong of a word, and has heretical implications. However, Muhammad is the closest of all Creation to G-d.
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Humans are made in G-d's "form". The Divine names are embedded in every human, in varying degree. Prophet Muhammad is considered G-d's most "perfect" representative on earth because he embodies all the Divine names in Perfect Balance. So Muhammad is the spokesperson for G-d. Manifestation is too strong of a word, and has heretical implications. However, Muhammad is the closest of all Creation to G-d.
So Muhammad was the closest thing to God on this earth, and he was a duplicitous violent pedophile. That explains a lot.

Christians say the same thing about Jesus, and with as little evidence to back them up. Been there, done that, got the hell over it...

BTW, try using fewer exclamation points in your subjects. Using lots of them in one line makes your post look like spam.

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Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was not a "demon-possesed pedophile" . That was just Baptist propaganda....


Listen , its really easy to make a Sinless person look tainted...Look at the case of Prophet Jesus(pbuh)...During his time the Jews accused him of @#$ with a donkey, prostitute and being a ba$t$ad son of....All this allegations are false and due to jelousy of a superior character. The same goes with Prophet Muhammad.



P.S: just a reminder . Muhammad is greatest of G-d's creation but he was not divine.
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Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was not a "demon-possesed pedophile" . That was just Baptist propaganda....


Listen , its really easy to make a Sinless person look tainted...Look at the case of Prophet Jesus(pbuh)...During his time the Jews accused him of @#$ with a donkey, prostitute and being a ba$t$ad son of....All this allegations are false and due to jelousy of a superior character. The same goes with Prophet Muhammad.
I assure you I'm not jealous of Muhammad (patooey!) or of Jesus. I didn't say Muhammad was demon-possessed -- I don't believe in demons (nor your Imaginary Friend Allah, for that matter). I said he was
  • duplicitous (conniving, scheming, untrustworthy) -- He made a peace treaty with the Bani Qainuqa that was supposed to last 10 years. Two years later, he slaughtered them.
  • violent -- He made his living during part of his life by banditry and raiding caravans, and oversaw the genocide of the Jews of Medina.
  • pedophile -- He had sex with nine-year-old Aisha.

If that's the best that God can do, he should be in another line of work.

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