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Old 04-12-2003, 07:29 AM   #1
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Can someone give me a website that covers these alleged prophecies that Jesus fullfilled?
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http://www.whychristianity.com/prophesiesfulfilled.htm

http://www.bibletopics.com/topics/405.htm


or go to the home page of this site and type "Jesus prophesies"
into the search box, it will search the whole web or just the archives of this site, which are numerous.
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His "Pre-existence" Micah 5:2

The term "Days of old" refers mainly to the Davidic dynasty not only here but in other books as well.

"Born Of The Seed of A Woman" Genesis 3:15

The original verse actually refers to all mankind("Seed" should be translated "offspring" or "Descendants"). Mankind of course, would have trouble with the offspring of the serpent--ALL snakes.
The prophecy does not refer to a Messiah getting bit by Satan and then Satan getting hit on the head, but humans and snakes

"Seed of Abraham" Genesis 12:3

Nothing about any messiah.


"All Nations Blessed" same passage.

The translation, in Jewish, is close to "All families will bless themselves"--meaning people will seek to be like Abraham.

"God will provide himself" Genesis 22:8

First off, the passage refers to the Lamb being burnt--Jesus was not burnt. Also it says that God will provide a lamb, but not *himself*. Abraham is mainly saying this to calm Isaac.

Genesis 49:10 "Of tribe of Judah"

Not sure about this one, but it more likely refers to the place of Shiloh.

Isiah 9:6-7 "Heir to David"

Refers most probably to the Davidic king of Isiah's time, Hezekiah, who was seen as one of the greatest of Judean kings.

Isiah 9:6 "Mighty God, Everlasting Father"

Many Israelite kings and prophets had names with the word God in them. Specifically, "Mighty God" can be interpetated as referring to Hezekiah, which means "Strength is Yahweh". On a side note, Jesus never stated directly he was God except in the Gospel of John.

Born In Bethehelm Micah 5:2

See my other posts.


Born Of A Virgin Isiah 7:14

This has been tackled many times. The infant referred to is not a Messianic figure but mainly intended as a sign for a king.

Called Immanuel "God with Us" Isiah 7:14

First off, it states that "she" shall call him Immanuel. While plenty of Christians state that Jesus is indeed "God with us", "His mother" never in scripture identifies Jesus as "God with us". Also hurting this is that the Judeans referred to in the other passages of Isiah declare "God is with us" since they're land is safe.

Elijah his messanger: Malachi 4:5-6

Not Elijah's "spirit" but Elijah himself was to arrive. In the OT Elijah ascends to Heaven, and presumabely God would send him back to herald the Apocalypse. He would not send a look-alike prophet. Plus, John and Jesus's movements certainly did not help reconcile families.

Proceeded by a Messanger Malachi 3:1

This "messanger" among other things would herald the way for God entering the temple and would purify the Levites so they would offer clean sacrifices. Since John, Jesus, and Paul did not support the temple system, this cannot be the same messanger.

"Prepare the Way" Isiah 40:3

Refers mainly to the Jewish people returning from Babylon, going through the wilderness to return to Israel.

Would be a Prophet Deuturonomy 18

This passage is a set of rules for *all* prophets. It no more refers to Jesus than it does to Jeremiah, who had God's words "Put in his mouth".

"Called out of Egypt" Hoseah 1:1

This passage refers to the Israelites being 'called out' of slavery in Egypt.

"Slaughter of Children" Jeremiah 31

Refers to the Exile--the children(Judeans) being led away are "No more".

Would be A Nazarene Judges: 13:5

Do Fundamentalists even read the OT?
The passage states that a child will grow to be a Nazarite.
Nazarites were Jews who practices asthetic practices, such as not cutting their hair or abstaining from wine. The original passage refers to the Folk hero Samson, who was a Nazarite. A Nazarene is not mentioned at all.

Brought Light to Zabulon and Nepthalem Isiah 9:7

Refers to Assyrian provinces once belonging to Israel which will be given back to Israel.

Got gifts Psalm 72

The Psalm is apparentally dedicated to Solomon, who wishes his son good fortune. It also refers to now non-existent empires, and certainly it does not refer to the Magi, who contrary to popular belief, were not kings.

Isiah 53:3 Rejected by his own

It does not say his own, but "others". Jewish interpetation-and the rest of Isiah-seem to support this passage as referring to Israel itself, which has returned from exile to be a teacher to the nations. Christians should read Isiah in context.

Stumbling block to Israel Isiah 8:14-15

This passage actually refers to Isiah and his prophecies, which are
rejected by Israel's people.

Enters Jerusalem on an ass Zechiriah 9:9

First off, Matthew goofs the "fufillment", secondly, this could be, and has been staged by other "Christs"-and third, the oracle refers mainly to threats against Ephraim and Greece, which have nothing to do with the Gospels.

Betrayed "Psalms 41:9"

The passage refers mainly to the Psalmist(David?) who is sick, and his enemies start to spread gossip. Even his friend joins them. Jesus obviously did not trust Judas at all--this is made clear from the Gospels. So he could not be a friend who he trusted!

Sold for Thirty Pieces Of Silver Zechiriah 11:12

First off in the Gospels this is given to Jeremiah. Second, this refers to a failed sheperd who recieves payment more fit for a slave and throws it to the treasury. Connecting this to Judas is really stretching it.














There's a lot more to cover....others can feel free to handle them, but I have to leave soon. A lot of the other ones deal mainly with the problematic Psalm 22 and Isiah 53, do not refer to a Messianic prophecy at all, mentions now-gone lands and empires, and so on. Basically, the fufillments are clumsily done by the Gospel writers, who reverted either to allegory or had poor knowledge of the verses in their original context.




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