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Old 04-11-2003, 08:51 PM   #11
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There is no battle in the United States of America. In case you haven't noticed, it's happening in Iraq.

Unless you mean the battle to control the political and social spectrums. Then it's still a viable prophecy. That's the funny thing about prophecies - you can read what you want into them.
We (Christians) do not war in the flesh. What does that mean, you say? We wrestle against the principalities of darkness in the unseen through prayer. The (unseen)battle has begun in the United States as a result of the prayers of Christians, and when it is over (in the unseen) revival will come to America. (You are free to see me as a lunatic, but after it happens, you will remember these words). [Prophecies are usually spoken to Christian audiences first and what is said is usually understood.] I wasn't expecting you to undertand that part about the battle in the U.S.

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Nine victories only nets us two more Al Queda operatives? Damn, we need to start praying and get that hedge back up!
Yes, you probably should start praying!
The real question you should ask is- which two from Al Qaeda? For the word of the Lord has gone forth saying:

"The Farmer of Rome Came. Bin Laden is Dead."

"And Manasseh is Casting a Cloud on Him, and We Will Pick Up the Dead Bin Laden."

"Bin Laden is Dead. Where is the Monument for the Oppressed?"

"Answer Me, Public Representative; Bin Laden is Swallowed In It. Strike Thus. There is Joy Everywhere."


Who is the other? I don't know, but it is probably another high ranking operative from the group. Look, like I said, it's o.k. to call me crazy. But after it happens....

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Well, no shit stories are being told. How do you think we got to the war in the first place?
Hmmm. BrotherMan, methinks you not ready for the coming events. Observe what happens in the next six to seven months.

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Plus, it's funny how our enemies are the same as God's enemies. No real point, just an observation.
Maybe you've forgotten that the enemy views America as a "Christian" nation? Who is it that attacks synagogues in the Philippines? Why is America attacked? Because of a small nation called Israel.

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That's not how it works, bub. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of the prophecy get tested. It's all or nothing - no half assing the job.
BrotherMan, you probably don't even understand the prophecy. I do. The only testable part for an atheist are those I emphasized, to keep it simple for you.


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Who's the Beast of the East this time? Is it the French? Is it Saddam? Is it the Pakistani, the Palestinians, the Saudis, the Indians, the Chinese or the Norht Koreans? Whoops, there I go, expecting a prophecy to be accurate before it comes true.
Saddam is the beast of the east. I should have specified. I talked about this in November on another thread in the Biblical Criticism forum. If i find it I'll post it so you can see.

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We went to war and God hasn't done anything that can be construed as the same or different.
Hellloo? The statements that followed is what you're supposed to use to determine wether God has prepared anything. If it doesn't come to pass the we'll know He didn't. It really isn't all that complicated, man.

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For those keeping score, that's only five victories. There's four missing already.
9 victories is not the same as five nations. The victories refer to those from battle. The "nations" are a separate prophecy. Don't combine everything into one.
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Status: Unprovable, non-falsifiable.
Helloo? That's why I specify the provable, falsifiable part. Otherwise what good is it? The other information is just there for you see the context.

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Starting from when?
The day the war began. When else? When was it? March 19? 20th? And liberation came when?

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Well, which is it? Will it be a Jericho-esque shout from the people or the sword of the lord?
Both. Notice the conjuction and. Remember, it is the people this message is being delivered to, the Church.

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Not so fast, junior. There's still the missing four victories. Where are they in your grand prophecy?
See. You're confusing yourself. The prophecies are separated for a reason. It's not one 'grand' prophecy.

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I can mock now while it's here instead of counting the days and then digging through the past to find this thread. [/B]
I really don't care if you choose to mock now. But what do you say after one of them has already come to pass?? Hm?

People, the test is to see if the prophecies really are inspired by God. If none come to pass, I'll welcome the conclusion that they aren't.

"Let the Oppressed be Congratulated, Saturated from Him. And Let Them be Guarded by the Echo of the Father's Son (Christ), Supported by the U.S. I Will See but He has the Knowledge," says the LORD
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Old 04-11-2003, 09:23 PM   #12
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Posted on November 15, 2002 on this website (I had to use a copy I saved to my hard drive. Can't find the original)-

Modern-day prophecy in action, July 25, 1996, in Detroit:
"The Spirit of prophecy is in this building. I am shaking right now. "I am shaking this place. I am shaking your ground. I am shaking the earth. There has been a terrorist act and there will be another. For the Spirit of the Lord says, America will retaliate, but God says, even as they retaliate with natural weapons of war and they say, we will go the place of the east and we will go and we will bring them down for what they did to our people as they flew in the air, over Long Island. But the Spirit of the Lord says, another will take place, but I will prevent many deaths, because I will cause a security thing to happen so they will not die. I will look after you, America. But God says, the retaliation will not be right. It will not be of my Spirit. It will be a wrong decision, but God says the saints of the Lord, of the most high God, will begin to pray. And your God says, I will strike down the god of the east. I will bring something to pass very soon. I have told you about it. The very god of the east, the very king of the east, the very prince of the east. The one that waged a war against America. They spoke about the mother of wars. For God says, This is going to be the mother of wars as you have never seen. For the Spirit of God will rise up against the prince of the east, and He will bring him down."

"And God says, when He does, I will enter the Muslim countries and I will save their souls. I will bring salvation unto the soil of the Islamic countries. Did you hear what I said? It is drawing nigh, it is drawing nigh, it is drawing nigh, says the Lord. There is a betrayal amongst the princes of the east. There is a betrayal amongst the princes of the east. And God says, I will take the very sheiks and I will let them see the true God of Israel. And God says, listen to me. There will be a major death. It is coming nigh right now. But God says when this death occurs, there will be life that will be transferred from the very throne of God. And I will bring down the god of the east."

"And the Spirit of the Lord says, when that happens, there will be an invasion of my blood into the territories that would never be holy, but shall become holy. I will take the holy places which are actually unholy, and I will lift them up. I will declare, this is NOT holy. I will tear down the idols and their gods. I will tear down the spirits of Allah. I will take the lying spirits and break their power. And I will begin to save hundred of thousands of Islamic people. I will take them out and fill them with my Spirit and they will begin to preach. They will preach in the desert, and they will preach in the highways, in the desert ways. And God says, they will preach by the lakes and they will begin to tell people, and God says great amounts of riches and wealth shall be poured into the United States and America. And God says, I will take the economy of America and I will raise it up and it shall be a great prosperity that will be in this nation and God says, the poor will say, I am rich."


The prophecy, spoken in the summer of 1996, is referring to the specific attack that occured on September 11, 2001 and what will happen afterword as a result. How do I know it is that one? The specific reference "for what they did to our people as they flew in the air over Long Island". You may say- "They didn't fly over long Island." Yes, but Long Island is used to identify New York. For the LORD said- "The Island was Restful, Elevated, and It Happened. Where is Libya? And You Have Disrupted the Nation. She Changed a Word. He Answered Them with Combat."

1. America will retaliate, of their own spirit
2. The terrorists will attack American soil again but this time they will not be successful.
3. Because of the prayer of Christians, God will go after the god of the east that waged war against America, a.k.a. "Allah", and defeat him
4. God will also go after the prince of the east that waged war against America, the prince of Babylon (Iraq) currently Saddam, and He will bring him down.
5. Islamic nations of the east would be open to Christianity after the "death of Allah"
6. The economy of America will change as a result of all this

Observe what is happening now.

Moderator: Consider moving this thread to your temporary Iraq forum. I think it is relevant. You guys can have fun with it.
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But God says, because of the prayers of the saints of the most high God, I will surely stop it’s voice once again. And it shall take less than 21 days this time.
Unfortunately for you, it hasn't taken less than 21 days. The conflict is far from over.
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Old 04-12-2003, 02:39 PM   #14
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Unfortunately for you, it hasn't taken less than 21 days. The conflict is far from over.
The prophecy didn't say the conflict will last less than 21 days. Read. It said the voice of the defiant regime will be silenced within that time.

You have proof otherwise? Show me something that reveals Saddam is not dead or is still in power. Where is his "shoulder"? Even the Iraqi U.N. ambassador himself admits, "The game (war) is over." Put up or ..........
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The prophecy didn't say the conflict will last less than 21 days. Read. It said the voice of the defiant regime will be silenced within that time.
That's actually not true. The only time the words "defiant regime" are used in the entire thread is in the post prior to this one.
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That's actually not true. The only time the words "defiant regime" are used in the entire thread is in the post prior to this one.
Come on, Jeremy. Are you really that daft? I'll quote that section for you again.

"The prince of Persia the principalities of Persia have once again stood up and said, we will not allow you entrance into our territory. But God says, because of the prayers of the saints of the most high God, I will surely stop it’s voice once again. And it shall take less than 21 days this time. God says, I will wipe him out with one shout from the people’s voice and I shall do it with My sword, says the Lord."

Maybe you can point out to me how it refers to the conflict and not the leaders.

Looking for a reason not to believe? Why don't you try the other one too:

"You Will Crush the Guilty Saddam and the Month of Iyar Will be Restful" (Iyar is the month of May on the Jewish Calendar)

Offer me proof that Saddam is not crushed. Where is his "shoulder"? Either put up or..... You know the rest.
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Old 04-12-2003, 03:38 PM   #17
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Isn't it funny that people of all ages believed themselves to be the most important generation (tm) such that the prophecies applied to their generation alone? We've seen this same thing throughout history, didn't we, these beautiful doomsday argument, starting from the inception of the Christian religion and continued non-stop to our times, 2000 years and all. Is it not the most amazing thing?
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Old 05-11-2003, 03:56 PM   #18
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Victory was declared by the President on May 1st. Coincidence?
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Old 05-12-2003, 10:46 PM   #19
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He's one month late.
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The prophecy didn't say the conflict will last less than 21 days. Read. It said the voice of the defiant regime will be silenced within that time.
Shame you weren't so precise the first time around. Stop shifting the goalposts.
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