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Old 03-21-2003, 05:47 PM   #1
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The word of the Lord as spoken March 1st 2003:

“And fight you shall. Prepare yourselves, for the battle has begun in the United States of America. Just a short period, and you shall hear the sounds of victory. You say, “Are we going to hear the sounds of battle?”

God says… “America shall battle, but there shall be victory, victory, victory, victory, victory, victory, victory, victory, 9 Great Victories!” You will dig out two others of Al Queda. 9 Great Victories will bring out two others from Al Queda. And they shall be revealed and they shall be exposed. And great stories shall be told because a man was determined to go all the way to bring down the enemies of this nation and the enemies of God.


Test it out. Emphasis added to specific test.

the word of the Lord as spoken March 16th (5 days ago):

“It shall even be marked in the history books because what I am about to do just before the impending war that is about to come upon you. Your sound tonight will deal with the beast of the East. The sound of your praise and the sound of your prayers coming from this altar will declare war against the beast of the East. Shall America go to war? For God says, 'they have prepared themselves for the battlefield, but I have prepared something different. I have prepared something that is so powerful and magnificent. I’ll bring down not just one man, but I will take four nations and cause them to surrender in one moment.' There shall be a sweet, sweet surrender because of the people of the living GOD. My Name shall be made holy. My Name shall be declared as the holy God.”

Test is in bold.

The word of the Lord as spoken February 27th 2003:

“For the Spirit of the Lord says, “You represent hundreds of thousands of people when you raise up your hands in the presence of iniquity, of those that would despise me. When you raise up your hands in the presence of your enemies, I begin to set a table before you. For the Spirit of the Lord says tonight even as you speak forth My word, even as you speak forth My praise, angelic hosts are applauding my presence. Demonic powers are bowing their knee, reluctantly but bowing their knee. Throughout this city and throughout this nation there is an outcry from the earth. But the spirit of the Lord says the praise of My people, the prayers of My people are building a memorial before me and causing angelic hosts to prepare their swords for a battle that is greater than any other that has ever existed in mankind. Do you not understand that My word is being fulfilled, even the word that I spoke through Daniel, even the word that I spoke through Isaiah and through those of old. Today it is being fulfilled. And even as you shout before me, even as you strengthen your swords, in your praise, angelic hosts are preparing themselves for a great battle. For even as they have stood and battled over the prince of Persia, thousands of years ago so again, even as Daniel fasted and prayed, so again my people have fasted and prayed and God says, A sword is drawn tonight. A sword from the same principality and angelic hosts are fighting over the territory of the prince of Persia. Even as the prince of Persia is raising up his ugly head again, so shall it be beaten down by the same angel that obeyed the voice of Daniel.

Surrender yourselves to Me says the Lord. For tonight even as I speak forth in the beginning stages of a battle in this nation, yet I still hear the heart of a child. I still hear the rejoicing of a child. I still hear the faith of a child. And therefore the Lord says, believe me tonight. The prince of Persia the principalities of Persia have once again stood up and said, we will not allow you entrance into our territory. But God says, because of the prayers of the saints of the most high God, I will surely stop it’s voice once again. And it shall take less than 21 days this time. God says, I will wipe him out with one shout from the people’s voice and I shall do it with My sword, says the Lord.”


Test is underlined. Count the days.

In November 2002, I posted this in a thread on this site (Had to do with prophecy too):

"You Will Crush the Guilty Saddam and the Month of Iyar Will be Restful"

Simple test- What is the Month of Iyar this year on the Jewish Calendar? Ask a Jewish source. Conduct the test.

If the future proves the posted words wrong, then you are free to mock all you want. Can we agree?

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Old 03-21-2003, 06:19 PM   #2
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I think we can agree this doesn't belong in BC&A. I'm moving it to GRD.
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Um, where did you post this previously?

And, frankly, if you'd posted the above prophecies right after they occurred I'd lend more credence to them--but not much. Not much more because, despite being more specific than, say, Nostradamus' prophecies, they're still vague.
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Since the Lord didn't inspire such a prophesy to be written, whats the point?
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I don't think sermons belong in GRD. Off to elsewhere.
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Now where is it off to? Nevermind wade, it's obviously off to "elsewhere". lol
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How about Humor?
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[B]The word of the Lord as spoken March 1st 2003:

“And fight you shall. Prepare yourselves, for the battle has begun in the United States of America. Just a short period, and you shall hear the sounds of victory. You say, “Are we going to hear the sounds of battle?”
Status: Failed.

There is no battle in the United States of America. In case you haven't noticed, it's happening in Iraq.

Unless you mean the battle to control the political and social spectrums. Then it's still a viable prophecy. That's the funny thing about prophecies - you can read what you want into them.

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God says… “America shall battle, but there shall be victory, victory, victory, victory, victory, victory, victory, victory, 9 Great Victories!” You will dig out two others of Al Queda. 9 Great Victories will bring out two others from Al Queda. And they shall be revealed and they shall be exposed.
Nine victories only nets us two more Al Queda operatives? Damn, we need to start praying and get that hedge back up!

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And great stories shall be told because a man was determined to go all the way to bring down the enemies of this nation and the enemies of God.
Well, no shit stories are being told. How do you think we got to the war in the first place?

Plus, it's funny how our enemies are the same as God's enemies. No real point, just an observation.

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Test it out. Emphasis added to specific test.
That's not how it works, bub. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of the prophecy get tested. It's all or nothing - no half assing the job.

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the word of the Lord as spoken March 16th (5 days ago):

“It shall even be marked in the history books because what I am about to do just before the impending war that is about to come upon you.
More obvious tripe. Of course this is going in the history books.

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Your sound tonight will deal with the beast of the East.
Who's the Beast of the East this time? Is it the French? Is it Saddam? Is it the Pakistani, the Palestinians, the Saudis, the Indians, the Chinese or the Norht Koreans? Whoops, there I go, expecting a prophecy to be accurate before it comes true.

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Shall America go to war? For God says, 'they have prepared themselves for the battlefield, but I have prepared something different.
Status: Failed.

We went to war and God hasn't done anything that can be construed as the same or different.

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I have prepared something that is so powerful and magnificent. I’ll bring down not just one man, but I will take four nations and cause them to surrender in one moment.' There shall be a sweet, sweet surrender because of the people of the living GOD. My Name shall be made holy. My Name shall be declared as the holy God.”
For those keeping score, that's only five victories. There's four missing already.

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Test is in bold.
Again, you don't get tp choose the focus of the prophecy and the subsequent test.

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The word of the Lord as spoken February 27th 2003:

“For the Spirit of the Lord says, “You represent hundreds of thousands of people when you raise up your hands in the presence of iniquity, of those that would despise me. When you raise up your hands in the presence of your enemies, I begin to set a table before you. For the Spirit of the Lord says tonight even as you speak forth My word, even as you speak forth My praise, angelic hosts are applauding my presence. Demonic powers are bowing their knee, reluctantly but bowing their knee. Throughout this city and throughout this nation there is an outcry from the earth. But the spirit of the Lord says the praise of My people, the prayers of My people are building a memorial before me and causing angelic hosts to prepare their swords for a battle that is greater than any other that has ever existed in mankind. Do you not understand that My word is being fulfilled, even the word that I spoke through Daniel, even the word that I spoke through Isaiah and through those of old. Today it is being fulfilled. And even as you shout before me, even as you strengthen your swords, in your praise, angelic hosts are preparing themselves for a great battle. For even as they have stood and battled over the prince of Persia, thousands of years ago so again, even as Daniel fasted and prayed, so again my people have fasted and prayed and God says, A sword is drawn tonight. A sword from the same principality and angelic hosts are fighting over the territory of the prince of Persia. Even as the prince of Persia is raising up his ugly head again, so shall it be beaten down by the same angel that obeyed the voice of Daniel.
Status: Unprovable, non-falsifiable.

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Surrender yourselves to Me says the Lord. For tonight even as I speak forth in the beginning stages of a battle in this nation, yet I still hear the heart of a child. I still hear the rejoicing of a child. I still hear the faith of a child. And therefore the Lord says, believe me tonight. The prince of Persia the principalities of Persia have once again stood up and said, we will not allow you entrance into our territory. But God says, because of the prayers of the saints of the most high God, I will surely stop it’s voice once again.
Status: Unprovable, non-falsifiable.

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And it shall take less than 21 days this time.
Starting from when?

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God says, I will wipe him out with one shout from the people’s voice and I shall do it with My sword, says the Lord.”
Well, which is it? Will it be a Jericho-esque shout from the people or the sword of the lord?

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Test is underlined. Count the days.


Tut, tut. That's three times I've had to counter this statement.

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In November 2002, I posted this in a thread on this site (Had to do with prophecy too):

"You Will Crush the Guilty Saddam and the Month of Iyar Will be Restful"

Simple test- What is the Month of Iyar this year on the Jewish Calendar? Ask a Jewish source. Conduct the test.
Not so fast, junior. There's still the missing four victories. Where are they in your grand prophecy?

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If the future proves the posted words wrong, then you are free to mock all you want. Can we agree?
I can mock now while it's here instead of counting the days and then digging through the past to find this thread.
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Defiately to humour. This guy just put it in the wrong forum. No way he took this crap seriously, he was just yanking chains...has to be. Maybe he wanted to make sure people were awake?
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Defiately to humour. This guy just put it in the wrong forum. No way he took this crap seriously, he was just yanking chains...has to be. Maybe he wanted to make sure people were awake?
Yep. Your 93 posts indicates you haven't been around these parts long.
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