tgamble

"What I have learned in the past ten years of review of recent scientific knowledge of cellular morphology and physiology, the code of life (DNA), and the lack of supporting evidence for evolution in the light of recent scientific evidence is a shocking rebuttal to the theory of evolution...There is no evidence of any kind for this theory." -Dr. Isaac Manly, M.D. Harvard Medical School

Obviously this is wrong. Anyone ever hear of this Isaac Manly? Is the quote out of context or is the guy just ignorant?

I think it may be that he's just a quack.
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Assumeing it's the same person.

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Malaclypse the Younger

More to the point, Dr. Manly is expressing an opinion. If this opinion represents a scientific conclusion, then he would be able to demonstrate the facts and reasoning that led to this conclusion. Indeed he is invited to do so, so his conclusion could be examined on its own merits, and not merely his authority.

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tgamble

Of course.

I was just wondering if the opinion expressed was really his or merely a fabricated one from an out of context quote.

David Gould

How much would an average medical doctor know of the evidence for the theory of evolution? It is hardly their direct field of expertise.

Many people in the US appear to support the idea of creationism. (To an Australian, this seems bizarre - it is not even on the agenda here, except occasionally in religious schools in Queensland.) I am sure there are plenty of doctors among them.

I have only met 1 creationist in Australia, which is not suprising considering that the two strong religions in Australia are the Catholic Church, which has officially accepted evolution, and the Anglican Church, which has also as far as I know.

I was an Anglican but the issue never arose and I never even knew there were people who thought the Earth was only 10,000 years old until I became an atheist and began reading at infidels.

tgamble

Isn't AIG located in Australia? If the majority of religion is Catholic and Anglican, just how much influence does AIG have?

David Gould

I had never heard of AIG until I came to this website last year. I have lived in Australia all of my 31 years. I am keenly interested in science and politics (I now work at parliament house.)

I would put their influence at a little less than zero.

Pantera

I seem to remember they started out in Australia, then switched their attention to the US because they weren't making enough money, oops, I mean winning enough souls.

ex-robot

I'm just curious, but don't doctors have experience with anti-biotic resistant bacteria, organs (useless/functional or not), embryos, and other related matters that would give them a little insight if any?

If not in the precise theory of evolution, I would think they would have some exertise in side issues of the whole evo/cre debate in regards to an organs good or bad design.

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P.S. I guess the my answer to the original question would be that depends on the individual doctor, how much has he studied, undergraduate degree, etc. This case sounds like a mere opinion and nothing more.

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pseudobug

Yes they do ex-robot, they certainly do. They can, however, take the fudie approach and accept that mere bacteria are capable of "micro-evolution" and the really "big stuff" mutations requie that "goddidit".

Also, it has been my experience from working with and teaching a lot of MDs-to-be that they are not necessarily the sharpest tools in the shed.

ex-robot

It was started in 1993 in Kentucky according to this:<a href="http://www.answersingenesis.org/us/history.asp" target="_blank">AIG Beginning</a>