lpetrich

Looking at what some of the Christian churches have done with Jesus Christ's mother, it's clear that they've made her into a sort of mother goddess.

Even if they are unwilling to call her one.

And this was someone barely mentioned in the Gospels; someone who had experienced her best-known offspring being rather rude to her, judging from their only recorded interaction.

davidH

those churches are catholic churches and can't be associated with Christian churches.

hezekiah jones

Huh?

Undercurrent

Didn't you know that some particularily hateful and arrogant protestant churches don't consider catholics to be christian? <a href="http://www.chick.com/information/religions/catholicism/#Church" target="_blank">Jack Chick</a> even goes so far as to invent a revised history in which Jesus' follwers found the protestant church and remained in hiding until the protestant reformation while the catholic church took power.

Using the word "christian" to mean "followers of Jesus who aren't catholic (or mormon of JW or who don't agree with some particular dogma of my sect)" is certainly a non-standard use of the word outside of these particular sects, though.

m.

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Amos

Good point! There is no such thing as a Christian church because there are no churches in the New Jerusalem (Rev.21:22) where we will find the end of religion. So, the term Christian church is a contradiction in itself. You probably meant "wannebe" christian churches and Catholic Churches are not part of those.

Amos

But Christians must be idiots to call themselves "Christian" to mean follower of Jesus because Jesus did not become Christ until after the Resurrection. The proof of this is why Jesus was never addresses as "Christ" in any of the four gospels and in fact it was the keen insight of Peter into the second nature of Jesus that rewarded him the keys to the kingdom. This insight will be our key (knowledge frees) and from this follows that protestants that call themselves Christian miss the mark completely for they do not have this keen insight nor can they be followers of Christ because when Jesus became Christ he left the scene and thus they can't know what he did so as to follow him.

Jesuits are followers of Jesus and church going Christians are day-dreamers at best. Would this not be a logical conclusion?

Amos

hezekiah jones

Hahaha

Amos

The Catholic Church is actually the image of Mary on earth. They would not tell you that because you do not really know what "a God" or a "female deity" is.

You forget (or probably do not know) that Mary is the driving force behind the destiny of Jesus and without Mary in our own life we will never be able to follow the footsteps of Jesus.

The Gospels take place in purgatory and the Catholic Church goes far beyond that whith her tradition and insight and this is where and why Mary becomes crowned as queen of heaven and earth. Once again, for Catholics only.

Amos

Krieger

"You forget (or probably do not know) that Mary is the driving force behind the destiny of Jesus and without Mary in our own life we will never be able to follow the footsteps of Jesus."

LOL.

Amos

Well the gospels take place in purgatory and Mary meets us there at the gate of purgatory (rebirth from God) where She is the cherub stationned at the gate of Eden to prevent us from returning to the Tree of Life. In Buddhism She, meets us down the river at the "narrows of Kiang."