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christ-on-a-stick · 03-07-2003, 09:48 AM

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There is not even enough interest by fair-minded people to ask that both sides put up or shut up

I for one am very interested in seeing you put up or shut up, Radorth.

You've accused Fenton of misquoting you. Let's see it.

Bumble Bee Tuna · 03-07-2003, 11:20 AM

I'd like to see it, too. Of course, I don't know if my vote counts, what with my recent promotion to "grudgemeister-in-training". But honestly I don't see the big deal. Obviously you should show it. You and Fenton argue about whether he has misquoted you on numerous threads. So your arguing has been wasting space at II on numerous occasions. Why not just show what evidence you have and settle it? It would be good for all of us.

-B

MrDarwin · 03-07-2003, 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by Radorth
That's the point. There is not even enough interest by fair-minded people to ask that both sides put up or shut up. I think a small majority of 5 people would go for "shut up altogether" but I don't know that without a poll.

Rad

I think that's because most "fair-minded people" have long since gotten tired of this discussion. I really have no idea if Fenton misquoted you or not (I do have a full-time job and I don't have time to read the entire discussion, much less analyze it), but if you're not going to substantiate the accusation, you're only damaging your own credibility. So I guess my vote boils down to "put up or shut up".

Family Man · 03-07-2003, 05:18 PM

I agree. If Radoth makes accusations, and says he has evidence, then he ought to present it. I suspect his reluctance is at least partly due to the fact that when he's presented "evidence" in the past he had twisted it so badly that it ended up blowing up in his face. That's why I'm a grudgemeister, folks.

But my opinion may not count. I know I'm a grudgemeister, but I'm not sure I'm a member of the Gang of Four. I certainly hope so, though.

Bumble Bee Tuna · 03-07-2003, 05:25 PM

yeah being one of the Gang of Four is even cooler than being a Grudgemeister. It's got that whole "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" thing going for it. The "Rad Police" is nowhere near as cool, though.

-B

Yellum Notnef · 03-07-2003, 05:39 PM

Let it be known that I have now gone through all my posts and have not found me misquoting Radorth one(1) time,let alone six(6) times.

Radorth is just calling my bluff hoping that I`ll fold.

Dr Rick · 03-07-2003, 08:09 PM

A warning to the kids out there:

Being a Grudgemeister, one of the Gang of Four, and in the Rad police is more than just the glamourous, all-nite partying, groupie-worshipped lifestyle we so often see protrayed in the lay-media and splashed upon the covers of trendy magazines; sometimes it involves real work. I myself can recall one time when one of his posts warranted several minutes of contemplation.

Hey, don't get me wrong; it's a great life, but it demands a certain amount of committment...

Rick

christ-on-a-stick · 03-07-2003, 08:29 PM

ALL HAIL DR. RICK!!!!!!!!

:notworthy

(Apologies to Jacey.... it's not our fault... you're just TOO DAMN PERFECT!!! Argh...)

Jobar · 03-07-2003, 09:12 PM

Radorth, I doubt it would be any challenge at all for us to find 50 or 100 people here who would vote for you to just shut up.

I wouldn't be one of them, though. You make us unbelievers look like geniuses and saints. You are walkin talkin proof that one of the best ways to destroy a position or ideology is to defend it stupidly. Like many other nasty theists who have posted here over the years, you do as much to further the cause of skepticism as any dedicated atheist; perhaps more.

Radorth · 03-07-2003, 10:07 PM

Well that's two, besides the usual saints.

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Radorth, I doubt it would be any challenge at all for us to find 50 or 100 people here who would vote for you to just shut up.

Put the poll up then.

The Gang well knows its a fair poll, but I don't expect any of them to put it up. It has, what shall we say, too many irreverant choices?

OK I'll try to go through my own posts tomorrow and see if I can find any flaws. I like that method better.

Rad

03-07-2003, 08:09 PM	#367
Dr Rick Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: USA Posts: 5,393	It's not the easiest job in the world, but it's worth it. A warning to the kids out there: Being a Grudgemeister, one of the Gang of Four, and in the Rad police is more than just the glamourous, all-nite partying, groupie-worshipped lifestyle we so often see protrayed in the lay-media and splashed upon the covers of trendy magazines; sometimes it involves real work. I myself can recall one time when one of his posts warranted several minutes of contemplation. Hey, don't get me wrong; it's a great life, but it demands a certain amount of committment... Rick

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03-07-2003, 11:20 AM	#362
Bumble Bee Tuna Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Middletown, CT Posts: 7,333	I'd like to see it, too. Of course, I don't know if my vote counts, what with my recent promotion to "grudgemeister-in-training". But honestly I don't see the big deal. Obviously you should show it. You and Fenton argue about whether he has misquoted you on numerous threads. So your arguing has been wasting space at II on numerous occasions. Why not just show what evidence you have and settle it? It would be good for all of us. -B

03-07-2003, 05:18 PM	#364
Family Man Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Superior, CO USA Posts: 1,553	I agree. If Radoth makes accusations, and says he has evidence, then he ought to present it. I suspect his reluctance is at least partly due to the fact that when he's presented "evidence" in the past he had twisted it so badly that it ended up blowing up in his face. That's why I'm a grudgemeister, folks. But my opinion may not count. I know I'm a grudgemeister, but I'm not sure I'm a member of the Gang of Four. I certainly hope so, though.

03-07-2003, 05:25 PM	#365
Bumble Bee Tuna Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Middletown, CT Posts: 7,333	yeah being one of the Gang of Four is even cooler than being a Grudgemeister. It's got that whole "Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse" thing going for it. The "Rad Police" is nowhere near as cool, though. -B

03-07-2003, 05:39 PM	#366
Yellum Notnef Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 4,676	Let it be known that I have now gone through all my posts and have not found me misquoting Radorth one(1) time,let alone six(6) times. Radorth is just calling my bluff hoping that I`ll fold.

03-07-2003, 08:29 PM	#368
christ-on-a-stick Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Durango, Colorado Posts: 7,116	ALL HAIL DR. RICK!!!!!!!! :notworthy (Apologies to Jacey.... it's not our fault... you're just TOO DAMN PERFECT!!! Argh...)

03-07-2003, 09:12 PM	#369
Jobar Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: secularcafe.org Posts: 9,525	Radorth, I doubt it would be any challenge at all for us to find 50 or 100 people here who would vote for you to just shut up. I wouldn't be one of them, though. You make us unbelievers look like geniuses and saints. You are walkin talkin proof that one of the best ways to destroy a position or ideology is to defend it stupidly. Like many other nasty theists who have posted here over the years, you do as much to further the cause of skepticism as any dedicated atheist; perhaps more.

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