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Old 04-18-2003, 09:25 AM   #1
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Reality,
What gives birth to it?
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If reality is a Universal mind, what is outside of the Universal mind? What gives birth to the reality?

Q. In answering your question, you need to divorce yourself from your logical way of thinking, seeing, from your 3D way of interpreting what comes to you naturally. From your perceived processes. To do this enables you to see what is given to you directly from the universal mind. You need to step back from yourself, to open to other realms. When you do this you will see how the universal mind works.

Lets take reality. There is no reality in the hologramatic world. There is a force, which has created your circumstances. The Universal mind is a consciousness that just IS. It is a created consciousness, it is created by the Grand Order of Design, and it knows no other life before it, as it cannot. It surpasses all knowledge. Created consciousness is the life force of every being throughout all the universes, you give birth to reality only when that contact is made via your true selves. The ' being' which created you. That 'being' (true self) is directly linked to the Greater consciousness, which in turn gives you the 'entity being', the reality. What you live in your hologramatic world is a created circumstance. It does not give you reality it gives you the feeling of such. It gives you the illusion of a reality. The most difficult illusion of all illusions as you struggle with the concept of what gives birth to reality.

To look at this from a 3 dimensional perspective. Imagine 'you' (the physical) is the creation, and the 'being' (you) is the reality. Look at this the same universally, the 'being' (true you) is the reality, and the G.O.D. is the created consciousness.
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If reality is a Universal mind, what is outside of the Universal mind? What gives birth to the reality?

is So!

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So reality is ours when we are at rest in the universal mind and if this is so reality is truth and our participation in life ends in the realization that we are the continuity of truth. This, then, is what makes life beautiful and in the end is how beautiful we are.
 
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So reality is ours when we are at rest in the universal mind and if this is so reality is truth and our participation in life ends in the realization that we are the continuity of truth. This, then, is what makes life beautiful and in the end is how beautiful we are.
Dear Amos.

Yes, you are correct. Reality at source and all extensions of that reality, as it is generated by your True Self, which is your G.O.D. connection, is TRUTH.
We, as the true being we are, are the continuity of the ultimate truth and that is what makes us and life, on what ever level, beautiful.
If one limits one's view to the 3D physical, with all it's distractions and trivialities, it's false seductions and over relience on the social importence of being accepted and ''normal'', one will miss the beauty and wonder of the beings we truly are and the eternal state of existence we are part and parcel of. The eternal truth and ultimate reality we are the progenitors of.

To know of the true self being you really are and the ultimate truth that you possess within is the knowledge that will lift you above the physical 3D emotional ''little'' self that sees only what the 3D world can offer it, a life of narrow vision and limited possibilities that mask the beauty of the TRUE reality that this world and this life is but a fraction of.
This is the view that will give the true perspective as the 3D world around trudges it's way through it's self inflicted self sustained mediocracy. If all could see and understand the true reality, the ultimate truth within, which is the understanding of the true self, what a different world this would be, what beauty could be seen instead of the selfishness and the chaos that this brings.

Amos, this is not a dream, it is reality that only the ''blind'' cannot and will not see.

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I don't see how we can define reality as a "mind".
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What is outside reality cannot be identified as it is unreal, and thus your question is impossible to answer.
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If that's what it takes to accept or even debate your claim, then how can there be a debate? What are we supposed to do with it?
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Amos, this is not a dream, it is reality that only the ''blind'' cannot and will not see.

Yes malai, I understand and I would call it the end of our dream. For this to be possible we must first have a dream to live and second we must live the dream we are born to live.

I am reluctant to call anybody wrong because there is a time for everything and this too is part of the the dream we are meant to live. This gets more interesting when we as "blind" sojourners are able and willing to remove the natural from nature and actually end our life long before we physically die. This may sound a little odd but must be possible or there would be no motherhood (nature or love) to be found in nature.
 
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malai, you seem to be laboring under the impression that mysticism is the equivalent of philosophy. I respectfully disagree. Again. Off to ~~E~~...
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I don't see how we can define reality as a "mind".

What is outside reality cannot be identified as it is unreal, and thus your question is impossible to answer.

If that's what it takes to accept or even debate your claim, then how can there be a debate? What are we supposed to do with it?
Dear Theli.

1) Reality is on one hand the creation of the true self mind for it's eminations, ''you'', as part of the Grand Order of Design and on the other hand the true self's reality is created by the ''mind'' that gave birth to the true self, the Gift Of Design. This is the ''mind'' that oversees the whole, everything.

2) What is outside ''your'' reality, is just another form of ''reality''.

3) What are you supposed to do about it? Ask questions.

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Dear yguy.

Those who wish to know all there is to know about ''life'', that's who.
Are you up for the adventure?

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Yes malai, I understand and I would call it the end of our dream. For this to be possible we must first have a dream to live and second we must live the dream we are born to live.

I am reluctant to call anybody wrong because there is a time for everything and this too is part of the the dream we are meant to live. This gets more interesting when we as "blind" sojourners are able and willing to remove the natural from nature and actually end our life long before we physically die. This may sound a little odd but must be possible or there would be no motherhood (nature or love) to be found in nature.
Dear Amos.

No Amos, it does not sound ''odd''.

We have finished our ''life'' in the 3D sense as the concepts and understanding that the universe has taught us has given us a way of living and thinking that is definately not 3D. We have journeyed down this road of discovery in blind faith and have not been left wanting in what it has brought us.
When one understands the structure that we are a part of is of infinite expanse and the variety of what forms we take, endless, nature as we know it in the 3D sense, although no less wonderful, is but a part of the passing parade as you sojourn on. Your knowing that you have a place in it all that is important and abilities that are only limited by your desire to explore, or not, to be limited or not, by the social ''rules'' of your ''world'' gives to you the choice to grow or not. When you make the choice to grow, you leave your ''world'' behind, you ''die'' in that world long before you physically die in that world. And when that time comes, your ''death'' becomes just a release to continue the sojourn in another form. Life after life after life, ad infinitum.

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