Chili

If the temple that Jesus promised to destroy was 46 years old Mary would also have been 46 years old.

wonkothesane

Because...?

(I'm just not aware of the connection.)

Chili

It is based Jn.2:21 where the temple of his body took 46 years to built. This temple was the body of Joseph into who's [conscious] mind Christ was reborn. The old temple was built by the sin nature of Joseph that alone was to be redeemed (raised) without the actual sin nature (ego identity) of Joseph that was to be crucified and die.

Mary is the identity given to the total knowledge of our soul (minus our incarnate evils) that is incarnate upon us at birth. She is our Thousand Year Reign, if you wish, or the Fig Tree in John, and therefore our Queen of heaven and earth once paradise is regained. In Rev. she is called the Alpha to which the Omega is added to become the 'old and the new' or the 'donkey and its colt' that we must ride to get into the New Jerusalem = the old Jerusalem raised.

Mary was betrothed by the integrity of Joseph who was therefore called an upright Jew who kept his soul nature to himself without being swayed by charismatic religionists of his time. Mary's canticle in Luke speaks on this but so does Virgilia in Coriolanus.

Chris Weimer

You have to pardon Chili, wonkothesane. He babbles on about his various interpretations of his theology outside the realm of normal sanity...I mean scholarship.

Chili

Various? I have only one opinion and this one fits all.

So where is the infancy narrative of John? and here I combine Luke and John to show that they are consistent.

Don't you think it is insane to think that Jews married their daughters off at the age of 12? Or that they had a general census at the place they were born?
So what if a 100 million scholars are wrong?

Chili

Maybe I should point out that Mary conceived Christ instead of Jesus. Mary and Christ were the "honest-to-God" figures that are not historic or they would not be eternally ours but they appeared in history when their time had come to dwell amongst us. Hence we now speak of the Perpetual Virginity of Mary and presence of Christ in our daily lives.

Toto

It is not insane to think that Jews married their daughters off at the age of puberty - that is a common custom in traditional cultures that want to increase their population.

It is not insane, but it may be wrong, to think that there was a general census that required them to travel back to where they were born.

Chili

You are correct, sorry.

Peter Watts

I know this may not be verifiable, and I don't have a source at my disposal right this moment, but I've always read in the Christmas story that Mary was a teen when she got married.
Jewish women at that time married young, usually to older men.
The age I've always heard is that Mary probably married between 12-16. That's awfully young by our culture, but it was a different world then. People didn't live as long, so when a girl reached child-bearing age, she got married off and started a family.
If Joseph was an older man, it would explain why he isn't mentioned later in the Gospels. He might have died before Jesus reached adulthood.

dancer_rnb

From the cherry tree carol.....

When Joseph was an old man,
an old man was he,
he married Virgin Mary,
the queen of Galilea..........